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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] How am I trying to annoy people? He posted an extremely ambiguous unsupported claim with no supporting evidence whatsoever. The ONLY motivation for him making this ambiguous claim is his console preference. Stop acting as if he just wants to see justice prevail and "the truth revealed" or something. he wants to ease his own mind. That is it. It is human nature to defend ones own preferences and this goes for ALL fanboys. I promise you on everything, If the words Uncharted 3 and Gears 3 were swapped around (implying the situation was reversed), his post would not exist. He doesnt want to see Sonys tyrant lying ways brought to justice, he wants to see Gears 3 sell more, because in his mind thats the way it SHOULD be. That is it. The same goes for you. You do not want moderators to step into this thread because "the trolls are injusticing you". You want moderators to step in because no matter what you say you will never conform people ITT to your own belief and that frustrates you. StrongDeadlift

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You really have a chip on your shoulder.

You obviously have no idea about how I feel, I am sick of the obnoxious fanboys who haven't a clue, that just spew out lies. People that purposefully try and annoy others need to leave. SW used to be quite hilarious, fanboys were funny, and not just trying to be mean to show favor of their preferred system.

You are just inciting rage, and going out of your way to try and irritate others. Hopefully the mods come and take a look at this thread soon.

Either way you need to relax, and take a look at my posting history, I have owned all of the consoles. I dislike the Wii, has some good games, but not enough that matter to me. I like the PS3 & Xbox quite a lot...So get your biased attitude and facts straightened. :D :D :D :D :D

Good for you, I have tomorrow off, and will be picking it up tonight(Only the Second game I have done this for).

As for you, you need to stop being so defensive. I never said you were spewing out lies(though in all honesty, I believe you have a truly skewed view). As for calling ANYONE a liar at these forums is annoying and against the rules. So just look at your posts within this thread, your answers are all there.

You also annoyed me, by making some ridiculous claim saying that I want moderators to step in since people will NEVER conform to my beliefs, and that it frustrates me. :Roll:

Like I said you have a chip on your shoulder, and apparently do not even realize what you are saying or how you come off. So just realize that you are doing basically what others are saying, since you know you implied that those shipped numbers were sold to consumer numbers. Which makes a huge difference, anyone who owns a retail store with their brother should realize that.

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Again, do you have any links to back up your claims? Or are you just blindly making things up because you will have trouble sleeping if Uncharted 3 sold more :? At the end of the day, I will sleep perfectly fine tonight in either scenario. Will you? ;)StrongDeadlift

Wow...You are purposely trying to annoy people...Why?

Do any people here have real jobs? Am I the only one who is bored enough at work, to spend time on this website?

When dealing with investors you cant outright lie, you can show numbers that are in your favor. In fact I would say nearly every company does that, at least everyone that I have worked with. CPAs are required to use actual numbers, but depending on how you want to show them(Show the numbers to your accountants), or place them is completely up to the company within reason.

4 Million Sold to Retailers...Its that simple, had it actually sold that many in 24 hours, we would be hearing a different story. From Sony, and basically any gaming website. Really, are some of you serious?

Why cant the mods step in, and stop all of this nonsense?

Sony Shipped/Sold that Many to retailers, Just look at the amount of players online...

System Wars is really at the bottom now.

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You really have a chip on your shoulder.

You obviously have no idea about how I feel, I am sick of the obnoxious fanboys who haven't a clue, that just spew out lies. People that purposefully try and annoy others need to leave. SW used to be quite hilarious, fanboys were funny, and not just trying to be mean to show favor of their preferred system.

You are just inciting rage, and going out of your way to try and irritate others. Hopefully the mods come and take a look at this thread soon.

Either way you need to relax, and take a look at my posting history, I have owned all of the consoles. I dislike the Wii, has some good games, but not enough that matter to me. I like the PS3 & Xbox quite a lot...So get your biased attitude and facts straightened. :D :D :D :D :D

[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Yes, and I am certain that you have definitive proof, and an official investor relations press release that only YOU have that can prove your claim :roll:. Thats definately not a blind fanboy accusation because you are butthurt about the numbers..... At the end of the day, cows lose NOTHING in either scenario. If your fanboyish claim that Sony is lying was true (even though its blind and based on absolutely nothing) I would walk away not caring because cows never said it would sell more. LEMMINGS are the only party that walks out of this looking stupid, which is why they are trying to save face. StrongDeadlift

Wow...You are purposely trying to annoy people...Why?

Do any people here have real jobs? Am I the only one who is bored enough at work, to spend time on this website?

When dealing with investors you cant outright lie, you can show numbers that are in your favor. In fact I would say nearly every company does that, at least everyone that I have worked with. CPAs are required to use actual numbers, but depending on how you want to show them(Show the numbers to your accountants), or place them is completely up to the company within reason.

4 Million Sold to Retailers...Its that simple, had it actually sold that many in 24 hours, we would be hearing a different story. From Sony, and basically any gaming website. Really, are some of you serious?

Why cant the mods step in, and stop all of this nonsense?

Sony Shipped/Sold that Many to retailers, Just look at the amount of players online...

System Wars is really at the bottom now.

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Older models yes, newer ones no. Stop spreading lies.

tormentos

Older models yes,the problem is that the majority are older models,maybe you forgot that the slim 360 was introduce last year,so no i am not sprading lies.

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Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

tormentos

Say you.most fail rates are base on survey,but many hints of high 360 fail rates came from inside the own market,hell IGN once stated that if the fail rate was based on the units they have,the fail rate would be 100%,because all the consoles they had failed at one point of another,the fail rate on 360 was so bad,that all old units will RROD at least once in their life,if you have a fat 360,no matter what model it will RROD eventually.

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There's a reason for that.. It wouldn't work correctly any time soon. Hardware limitations, possible conflictions due to the presence of more than one character, tethering annoyances, and probably balance issues that would need to be taken into consideration to make coop work. THey cannot just tack the ability to involve another player into the game and then bam, it works. It'd take a lot of time and resources out of Bethesda to create and execute so properly. Even if it's suitable, it doesn't change the fact that it'd be hard to do. Not to mention they probably wouldn't even amass a much larger audience for the game by adding multiplayer. It wouldn't be worth the sacrifice and the reputation that Elderscrolls upholds.

mr_zombie60

Fact is choice is almost always a good thing, and to have the choice on whether to have co-op or not would better this game.

MY view is not being skewed. He said it would be a suitable environment for co-op and that it would work great if done right. So, as a result. There was my response. It cannot just be done right. I'm bringing in other possibilities because I guess I just like to kill these little fantasies.

So like I said I believe youre view is skewed.

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Ah yes, and imagine how disruptive and poorly planned such co-op would be. Co-op is nice, but it doesn't work out well in games like these.

mr_zombie60

We haven't yet seen anyone try to blend a single-player RPG with a MMO so we don't yet know how it would work. I think it could work great if done right.

Besides, the huge worlds in TES series are very suitable for this kind of thing.

There's a reason for that.. It wouldn't work correctly any time soon. Hardware limitations, possible conflictions due to the presence of more than one character, tethering annoyances, and probably balance issues that would need to be taken into consideration to make coop work. THey cannot just tack the ability to involve another player into the game and then bam, it works. It'd take a lot of time and resources out of Bethesda to create and execute so properly. Even if it's suitable, it doesn't change the fact that it'd be hard to do. Not to mention they probably wouldn't even amass a much larger audience for the game by adding multiplayer. It wouldn't be worth the sacrifice and the reputation that Elderscrolls upholds.

Fact is choice is almost always a good thing, and to have the choice on whether to have co-op or not would better this game.

Co-Op would be awesome, hence why I bought Two Worlds Two 1-2(Though they both basically sucked).

Elder Scrolls is an amazing series, and plays just fine without co-op, but to anyone who says the choice of having someone play with you is a bad thing, is just blatantly lying.

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[QUOTE="Allthishate"] Mate give up he will never admit anything that would praise xbox or its games. ive tried and failed hard. Allthishate

Its quite frustrating to see a Mod post multiple times in one thread, while doing nothing to stop a certain user from trolling.

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[QUOTE="tormentos"] In MP which doesn't require as much resources to render as Single players does,because you are not rendering a complete stage,and just rather one part,unless you what to actually claim that Gears online is the same as offline. And is a step down,in characters detail,enemy detail,fire effect,water effects and several other things. Allthishate

That makes literally no sense. You can have a bunch of armored Gears in MP. Plus there is no downgrade in graphics for the MP in Gears 3...