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#1 Inferman
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@Solaryellow said:

They are all trembling in fear of being deported. Just ask the illegal from Phoenix whose ass was shipped out the other day. Good for her.

This is a live possibility. It may be that many of these people are illegals themselves--or have friends who are illegals. Tough luck. You broke the law, folks.

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#2  Edited By Inferman
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@Planeforger said:

Some illegal immigrants murder people. Some illegal immigrants raise wonderful families and support charities for those in need.

Illegal immigrants who "raise wonderful families" are still here illegally; therefore, they should be ejected from the country. They can raise their "wonderful families" in Mexico.

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@bmanva said:

Homicide are another issue entirely, whether the perpetrator legal status is irrelevant.

Why don't you talk about the fact the crime was committed while the killer on high on pcp which directly led to the murder? Why don't you ask Trump to do something more about enforcing the current law on illegal drugs? That COULD've saved the girl's life too?

And two can play the anecdotal game. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Quinones-Hinojosa, a brain surgeon who came to the US illegally. Many people owe their lives to this doctor. By your logic, one can simply conclude that more US citizens' lives would be improved or otherwise saved by illegal immigrants.

If illegal immigrants are ejected from the United States, then they cannot commit any crimes inside the United States... because they've been ejected.

I agree. Trump should be hard on illegal immigration and those who use PCP.

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@drunk_pi said:
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Any proof that he is an illegal immigrant? I've read a bunch of articles and nothing points out to it.

Even then, while what happened was tragic, what's the difference between being killed by an illegal immigrant vs a citizen?

An illegal immigrant shouldn't have been inside the country.

So if she was killed by a citizen, it would have been better?

If illegal immigrants were ejected from the country, then it would be impossible for US citizens to be harmed by illegal immigrants.

Do you understand now?

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#5  Edited By Inferman
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@drunk_pi said:

Any proof that he is an illegal immigrant? I've read a bunch of articles and nothing points out to it.

Even then, while what happened was tragic, what's the difference between being killed by an illegal immigrant vs a citizen?

An illegal immigrant shouldn't have been inside the country.

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#6  Edited By Inferman
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@bmanva said:
@Inferman said:
@bmanva said:

Man I remember this case. But honestly if you had to go back to 7 years for an example of a crime committed by an illegal immigrant, that's pretty fucking good. I mean the chances are right now a US citizen is murdering someone somewhere.

An illegal immigrant shouldn't be in the country period, murderer or not. An illegal immigrant who murdered a person has broken the law at least twice. They should have been taken care of the first time, which would have prevented the second incident. That's the issue. Do you not understand?

So just say you want immigration law enforced. Exploiting the tragedy to justify your personal belief on immigration only weakens your argument.

No, what I'm saying is if immigration law were properly enforced and illegal immigrants were prevented from entering into the country (as they should be)--or deported once they've been found out by the proper authorities (as they should be)--then there would be less US citizens murdered, stolen from, etc., by illegal immigrants.

US citizens murdering other US citizens is another issue entirely which is taken care of by law (if it is properly enforced) as well.

Do you understand now?

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@bmanva said:

Man I remember this case. But honestly if you had to go back to 7 years for an example of a crime committed by an illegal immigrant, that's pretty fucking good. I mean the chances are right now a US citizen is murdering someone somewhere.

An illegal immigrant shouldn't be in the country period, murderer or not. An illegal immigrant who murdered a person has broken the law at least twice. They should have been taken care of the first time, which would have prevented the second incident. That's the issue. Do you not understand?

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@Jolt_counter119 said:
@Inferman said:

If the United States enforced their own immigration laws (like Trump is trying to do now) then Vanessa Pham wouldn't have been killed since that bastard would have been kicked over the wall.

That's not a good remedy for murder and violence in the United States. But you don't really care about that if we're being honest. You're just an anti immigrant fanatic (most likely troll) that is using a dead girl as a talking point for stricter immigration.

Illegal immigrants have already broken the law (immigration law); therefore, they should be kicked out regardless. And by kicking out illegal immigrants this will also remove dangerous illegal immigrants (who shouldn't have been in the country to begin with).

What is difficult for you to understand?

And since when is enforcing immigration law fanatical?

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#9  Edited By Inferman
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What exactly do you think the constitution is?

The constitution is a description of the limitations placed on the US government's power over US citizens.

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@Jolt_counter119 said:

It's not going to stop. And what does him being an illegal alien have to do with it? Shit like this happens all the time from all kinds of people and will continue to happen. But if you say, "Hey, don't pick up strangers, don't run alone at night, report any abuse that you receive from your spouse to the police" then all the liberals will just yell at you that you're victim blaming and not give any credence to any sort of preventive measures. And all the Conservatives will yell at you that he shouldn't have even been in the country and that we need to kick out all the illegal immigrants.

If the United States enforced their own immigration laws (like Trump is trying to do now) then Vanessa Pham wouldn't have been killed since that bastard would have been kicked over the wall.