Faith based belief is about believing something to be true because of experiential 'evidence,' not objective evidence and Christianity has an extremely broad scope of definition and different types. This is the problem with all of it in my opinion. Experiential evidence is not epistemologically sound and faith based belief often leads to demonstrably false conclusions, as proven by the fact that this same type of belief leads different people to believe different conclusions that are mutually exclusive and cannot all simultaneously be correct.
[QUOTE="playmynutz"]You are proving my point without me needing to try. Why do you feel the need to prove me wrong? This is a forum where people express ideas. It's perfectly natural for people to express when they disagree with the claims of others. The fact that I've disagreed with you doesn't prove that I'm wrong. You'll have to address the content of my argument to prove me wrong I'm afraid. [QUOTE="playmynutz"]An ego that believes what I said is against you. If an individual believes one self is alpha and omega you wouldn't be able to worship God with others. As a slave you can't have two owners. Sorry for using the word God because i know the first thing that comes to mind is church and atheism, when what I am saying is bigger than that. Talking about spiritualism this is the war within one to follow one self as lord or follow a loving lord of multiple people You are just rewording what you said before and it remains just as fallacious as it was before. To elaborate, you are making a universal claim that all people who exist either believe that they themselves are God or that another God exists. This is fallacious because there are examples of people who exist and don't fall into either of these categories. For example, people like me, who don't either believe that God exists or that they, themselves are God. I am uncertain of whether either of these claims are true, for instance and therefore don't fit into your overly simplistic claim. People can be unconvinced of the claim that a God exists, especially a 'loving' God, without believing themselves to be Gods.
[QUOTE="playmynutz"] it is what it is. i stand by my absurd false dichotomy If you acknowledge that your statement is a false dichotomy, that means you acknowledge that it's fallacious and therefore logically incorrect. More information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
It waters down to; do you believe in God or do you believe as an individual you yourself is God. two completely different lifestyle and ya actions really prove what you believe in.playmynutz
I'm sorry but this is an absurd false dichotomy. Many people don't believe either of these propositions and are instead uncertain about unknown phenomena. This is actually the most rational stance without evidence.
I arbitrarily define spirituality as a scope of seemingly transcendent experience that anyone can have, regardless of propositional beliefs. You don't necessarily have to believe that there is anything 'greater than yourself' or beyond the physical realm to partake in this scope of experience but just appreciate it for what it is. I also promote scientific investigation of this scope of experience.
The problem with Christianity, and religion in general, is that it tends to promote propositional belief with degrees of certainty that do not hinge appropriately with available objective evidence and reason.
(although they were probably lazy and dumb to begin with). kuraimen
I'm curious if you know of any objective data on this as smoking weed used to make me lazy and dumb and I've never read anything that seemed to suggest this was true.
It depends on the person with marijuana. Some people self medicate with it and it doesn't seem to change their personality very much. Some other people get stupid and lazy on it. I was an example of the latter until my early 20s when it started causing massive anxiety. I have other friends who smoke all the time and are perfectly coherent, motivated and intelligent.
Stopped reading after the "I vape green just about every single day." If you're going to defend your argument at the very least avoid marijuana jargon. starfox15
I don't see any reason why he needs to avoid jargon. Especially jargon that's so easy to understand through context.
Marijuana specifically is different for everyone. For some people, it decreases their calculation abilities and for others, like me, it causes massive anxiety but if it works for you and you enjoy it, I say stick with it. I'd also recommend hallucinogenic mushrooms in strict moderation if you haven't tried them.
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