Bickering on the internet is stupid end of lol.

I admit there is a big difference between a serious hardocre gamer than a flash gamer but still a gamer none the less.

Of course but if they play runescape you are a gamer right so that is web based anyone that at work plays games in my opinion is a gamer just as much as Wii players or ipod touch gamers.

well lets see the sales of PC is vastly larger than the amount of consoles. And considering any pc with flash can play games online I consider that meaning there is a lot more pc gamers correct no?

Maybe I should make a new topic because I want a socom on the PC and well no one can really tell me TF2 or CS:S so I dont know what to buy. Back to Crysis I guess.

I enjoyed a game called combat arms it was free but the game was pretty fun. If counterstrike is like that but with delayed respawn it sounds fun.

I want a game where team work and tacitcs are possible. Wav/round respawn. Third Person? - in my dreams. And has a realistic setting but above all that I want a fun game

L4D wanst my cup of tea on the PC ITS AMAZING! So much fun I dont care about my usual preferances.

Well I am not fussy about gmod it just comes with CS:s I have never played TF or CS so i really dont know what to expect. I wish there was a socom on the PC thats all I want :cry:

So I have around £15 I can spare fo a good online shooter. I want Cod4 but better more realistic and slower. Ideally I would want Socom. Yes I know that third person but hey. I know I'm askin for a lot with a budget price but Valve's mod are both ment to be pretty good I'm just wondering which is better value. I dont care much for Half Life tbh. So the orange box or CS:s with Gmod? My HF2 experience is form the orange box xbox 360 so unless its a helluva lot better on the pc I'm only interested in the online gaming.