MS is not betting on Kinect. They know it will be a moderate success, nothing more. A console add-on can never be a massive success, since its splitting the market. Splitting the market means software sales for Kinect, or Move(is that what PS3 motion thingy is called?) will always remain low.

MS is on a bit of a decline due to the success of Apple and the emergence of the mobile market. But MS just came out with their new mobile operating system, and its not bad at all. Even though the market share for apple has increased in the last decade, sales of PC far, far outweigh the sales of Apple computers.

Si I have GOW3 played a bit and absolutely love it. Love it! But I have been told I gotta finish gow2, I had it once upon a time but the game froze quite early and I never bothered to get another copy to beat it. So I am waiting for the GOW collection to arrive, obviously I gonna play GOW2, but does GOW1 still hold up? Are there still those crazy epic battles??

I got part 3 and I am keep being told I need to finished the first two whcih i have only played a bit of both. But I played a bit of GOW3, and WOW!!! I am dying to get it, so where can I get the collection? How fast does Amazon send it Is there somewhere better??

And where can I get overnight?

I'm so sorry if this was answered recently in another thread but all the ppl I know are quite gaming idiots so, please any help.

[QUOTE="KingNabster"]Dude I'm sorry for that, but seriously, your comment really ranks high on the.... hmmmm I don't want to insult you again, but seriously if your question was serious, life is too short to explain why it was a stupid thing to say.Tragic_Kingdom7

My question was dead serious. If you don't believe reviews somehow provide an objective standard, why would you think a collection of them gives your opinion more merit?

The fact other reviewers argree with me is a short hand way of avoiding exactly why I think the designs are better in Infamous, I didn't feel like actually writing out a full review! Objective standard has nothing to do with.

I;m refraining from insulting, but if you think the consensus of professionals doesn't mean anthing you are not being .... honest. If you cannot understand why someone would use professional consensus as short hand in an argument, goty, oscars, critical consensus; to prove a point, well lets just say your brain has problems.

And saying the critics agree with you DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE CLAIMING ANYTHING AS FACT!!!!!!!!!

Repeat: And saying the critics agree with you DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE CLAIMING ANYTHING AS FACT!!!!!!!!

Repeat: And saying the critics agree with you DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE CLAIMING ANYTHING AS FACT!!!!!!!!

I cannot remember encountering such mind numbingly dumb arguments on the net before. Seriously. How can you even claim someone else is claiming critical consensus as fact? You really had to perform some mental gymnastics for that one. Oh wait I forgot you read minds.

Of all the things, opinion versus fact, wow. And the crazy part about it is, you actually think you are being smart, or profound. So sad. Dude it might be time to put down the controller, go outside, pick up a book.

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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

It seems that I've touched a nerve because you've been reduced to shrieking incoherence.

First of all, you did present your opinion as fact. You said that a review could refute an opinion when the review itself is an opinion. This implies that you believe that a review is an objective standard that renders that opinion wrong. If you think that somehow opinions can be robbed of their legitimacy by a bunch of opposing opinions, you must think that there's something objective about those opposing opinions.

Also, instead of saying that you strongly disagree with the opinion for the following reasons, you said it was dead wrong, meaning is has negative truth value.

I simply stated my opinion. I never said the opinions of others are wrong. I never tried to laughably use another opinion to refute another.

It's clear that you were spewing your opinion as fact, but now that I reminded you of the basic difference between objectivity and subjectivity, you are trying to backpeddal with a laughably incoherent post.

KingNabster

I'm not hung up on "refute". I'm focused on the fact that you think that reviews create an objective standard. You may pretend that you're just talking about consesus strengthening an argument, but a person who is looking at the bigger picture knows that such an appeal to popular opinion is used to imply that there is some objective truth because most people arrive at that opinion. If you were not trying to imply such a thing, why would you think that consensus strengthens your opinion? If you aware of the difference betwen objectivity, you would know that consensus can't rob any subjective judgment of its legitimacy and thus does not strengthen your opinion. You may not realize that you're not grasping the differences betwen subjectivity and objectivity, but your lack of self-awareness if your own problem.

I'm glad that you'venow that you've remembered the basics of subjectivity .vs. objectivity, but you sure came into this thread thinking that you were about to make people thinking that Infamous had blander city design was tantamount to saying the sky is green. If you're puzzled as to why somehow would equate opinion to fact, ask yourself.

Also, you might want to lay off of the "autism" stuff. That's not cool at all.

And excuse me, "You may pretend that you're just talking about consesus strengthening an argument, but a person who is looking at the bigger picture knows that such an appeal to popular opinion is used to imply that there is some objective truth because most people arrive at that opinion."

Wow. Just wow. "You may pretend that you're just talking about consesus strengthening an argument," Pretend? What the hell are you talking about? I'm using the consensus to prove that I am not in the minority, that most people agree with me.

Are you a mind reader, how in the world have you extrapolated that I find objective truth in a consensus? Anyone can make an argument when you make illogical leaps.

Proving other people agree with me, does not mean I claim my opinion is fact, not matter how many times you say this. Stop making up stuff, and trying to read my mind, you are not that smart.

Dude your logic and reasoning is all over the place, your argument is competely unfocused and completely retorical, it doesn't mean a single thing.

[QUOTE="KingNabster"]

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

That's an opinion. There is no objective truth value. An opinion can't be dead wrong. Don't you know the difference between opinion and fact? Pretty sad if you don't as that's pretty basic stuff.

Secondly, a review can't refute an opinion because it is a nothing more than an opinion itself.

The only one that's a fanboy is you as you confuse subjectivity for objectivity and you can't accept differences of opinion.

BTW, I thought both games had bland city design.

Tragic_Kingdom7

It seems that I've touched a nerve because you've been reduced to shrieking incoherence.

First of all, you did present your opinion as fact. You said that a review could refute an opinion when the review itself is an opinion. This implies that you believe that a review is an objective standard that renders that opinion wrong. If you think that somehow opinions can be robbed of their legitimacy by a bunch of opposing opinions, you must think that there's something objective about those opposing opinions.

Also, instead of saying that you strongly disagree with the opinion for the following reasons, you said it was dead wrong, meaning is has negative truth value.

I simply stated my opinion. I never said the opinions of others are wrong. I never tried to laughably use another opinion to refute another.

It's clear that you were spewing your opinion as fact, but now that I reminded you of the basic difference between objectivity and subjectivity, you are trying to backpeddal with a laughably incoherent post.

Not only this I have told you as clearly as possible, I never argued it has fact, but as opinion, yet your autistic mind is hung up one word "refute", good job using that brain of yours. How could this even possibly argued as fact? It doesn't make sense, neither does anything you argue. Its all meaningless.

Since you cannot actually argue your point on merit this is what you argue? When have I once said my opinion is fact? Saying someone elses opinion is wrong, just means I think their opinion is wrong, even if I use the words dead wrong.

If you think the city design in Infamous is blander than in Prototype you are dead wrong. See, not very complex.

Just as you think others opinion is wrong, if you didn't you would share their opinion, but you obviously don't in this case. I'm not surprised at this line of argument really, exatcly what I would expect from someone who has thousands of posts on a videogame forum.

Once again, I know all you must do is play videogames, so it is not possible to argue what someone likes as a fact! It is simply impossible to accuse someone of claiming their preference as fact.

One again, you want to tell me I'm wrong. But telling " all opinions are correct" is retarded. We're not in the third grade.