I don't like emmings, cows, sheep, or hermits. I'm a real troll.I've never been able to keep a account for more than a few weeks, I don't mean any harm i just can't help myself, I'm a troll it's in my blood. I own all consoles but I still troll them, I'm a lost cause. I've been called the worst poster ever on Eurogamer, I've even been called the devil. I've been banned about 100 times on Gamefaqs, Gamespot, Eurogamer. I'm hated on a lot of gaming forums, But I'm a nice person in real life.

I can troll any system and any game and make you mad at any time I like. I'm a proffesional troll. But I'm hanging up my troll boots, you're very lucky. I'm known by many names for many years. But it ends now. You kids would be wise to not follow the ways of the troll, it leads to no good.

Farewell. Life is to short to troll forever.

Lems will be paying stuff like ODST and Left 4 Dead 2 this year, they look at least a generation behind current PS3 games. How you can say 360 can match PS3 in graphics when you have no games to backup your claimsboggles my mind. It's like saying PS2 games looked as good as Xbox games, we know they didn't. Same way we know 360 has no games that look as good as PS3 exclusives in 2009 and beyond. I own a 360/PS3, I like the 360. But it's games are all starting to look the same, where as PS3 games continue to improve by a great deal.

I think once God of war 3 comes out it lemmings will finally admit defeat.

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

http://kotaku.com/5351403/360-games-no-longer-have-to-be-in-high-definition

Motion controls and low definition graphics, where have I seen that before... oh yeah the Wii. I guess MS are giving up competing with PS3 and are now after the Wii market. Looks like 360 has reached its peak in terms of graphics. PS3 is now the only true high def console on the market.

The 4th December is a Friday, so this date makes perfect sense. Just in time for Christmas.

Two UK stores listing it as 4/12/09, Argos and Play.com

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10001&catalogId=1500001801&langId=-1&searchTerms=gran+turismo

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/1021999/Gran-Turismo-5/Product.html

Australian store listing it for the same date

http://www.cdwow.co.nz/games/PS3/GRAN-TURISMO-5/dp/pc/9857475

GT5, God of war collection,and Uncharted 2 this year, price drop, slim, Sony are going to do very well this Christmas.

Best Sim, Forza 2/3

Best arcade racers, GRID, PGR4, Midnight Club LA, Burnout Paradise.

I don't like buying anything on market place, I like having my games on a disk. So I'll be buying itin store. I can see the day when MS turn off the servers that have all your payed content on them, maybe 5-10 years from now,add in licensing problems when you get RRoD and I just don't see the point in it all.

Looks great, day one for me. I still play COD4 as much now as when it was released.

You need a VGA cable, you're better off spending a bit extra to get the official Microsoft cable as it's shielded so does a better job. I got one and the picture is very sharp on my 19" monitor.