[QUOTE="LesFinalFantasy"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="death919"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]that is because bulding a PC and setting everything up is a daunting task unlessyou or someone you know has plenty of knwoledge in that department. plus, consoles are hardly the price of a MONITOR and offer you INSTANT GAMING. it's easy to see why they're so popularBubblehash

1 Yourtube video and you can do it yourself.

Do exactly the same? send it somewhere... for what? $25 check and fix?

A broken part is a broken part. chances are very low. in which case all your parts have 3+ year warranties.

Not to mention; if your Xbox 360 or PS3 takes a crap, you have to send that sucker away for 3 weeks and WAIT for UPS. Then they usually kick the box and break it again. It's a vicious circle.

You can repair your PC. If you built a computer like you should have, you can just fix the problem...although problems are pretty rare. It's not such a cramped space, so overheating isn't usually a big issues, unless you overclock off the chain, but then those who do that, always make sure they have proper and over excessive cooling anyways.

You could just take your PC to a shop for a $25 diagnostics...that's if you can't do it yourself. Get the part, go home and game on. With a console, if you open that badboy...bye bye warranty.

Ok first off i expect people that havent played the game to not know what im talking about. but if you played this game it is VERY obvious no game out even touches it graphically, gameplay, or damn sure not story wise. this is one of the best games ever PERIOD. notice i said one of and not the best. however anybody can agree or disagree but thats why i posted it in here....PK_3100

Just STOP. Everyone knows the reason why Crysis distroys ALL computers. If you got the best computer you could possibly build ( 10k ....everything insanely overclocked ) Crysis would STILL kick it's ass.

I still can't get past how these people honestly think a 7 series card is able to handle all of these LEET graphics. You're trying to tell me you think your 7 series beats out two 4870's in crossfire? Hell...one 4850 will rape that 7 series card by at least twice as many frames.

I'm also fully convinced the people saying "OHHhh i own a gaming PC, I didn't like it....i like console gaming better still..it has the games i prefer" ......BULL ( you can guess the rest)

[QUOTE="LesFinalFantasy"]

Here's one gigantic fact. 99.9% ( Lysol strength) of so called "Gamers" who have stated that apparently PC gaming is inferior to consoles ALL share one thing in common.

They haven't owned a high end PC. They haven't played log enough to make an educated decision. They're ALL full of CRAP, play a game for 5 minutes on a friends PC, and out of jealously state "Oh, i didn't like it"

Whatever to all of you. You're a console gamer for one reason. It's economic, casual fun. You don't have the money for a gaming PC, and i don't want to hear "I don't want to waste my money on a gaming PC" BS to that. YES you do. Who doesn't want a beast computer? It's like chooisng a Ford Pinto over a Fararri. Your console gets stomped hardware wise, and quite frankly, mature people who actually have a job play PC games, so we actually don't care about money.

Your arguments are that over a childs; with this stupid money issue and somehow appeal problems. You simply haven't played PC games in the manor they should have been played, and you obviously don't have the means to. There's 1 million ways to use a gaming PC other than it's main purpose. You can do unlimited tasks. With a console you're MAYBE able to do a few other things than gaming, which ALL by the way mimic the PC. I.E. Web browsing, Instant message style chatting.

Blah. Consoles are washed down, PC immiatators. It's cool if that's your personal opinion, but you attempt to turn your opinions into facts. Consoles do NOT top PC games in graphics, sound, visual or any other possible means. We've been at a high resolutuon since 1995. You DO NOT know the meaning of high definition. You scratch the surface, while PC games have been far above.

The main point i'm making..is this; you haven't gamed enough into PC games. You don't own a high end gaming PC. You then proceed to make statments and facts about how the PC isn't NEARLY as good as your budget console. I don't make factual statments about consoles that i haven't played, so it's not quite okay for you to do the same for the PC....when we can obviously tell you haven't even explored the entire region and possibilities.

Good day.

demon790

Ummm no, I'd love a high end pc your right but maybe an imac not a gaming pc. I don't care how "washed down" my consoles are they're funner than a comp I don't care about RTS or MMO. Anything else is on my wii60

The biggest problem is; YOU CONSOLE FANBOYS WILL NOT admit that your consoles are indeed washed down PC's. They run the same hardware components and render the same things. Yet they're largly under powered and you brag and boast about how good this game looks, when the PC has been spanking you in the graphics department since DAY one your consoles launched. I'm not bragging about the PC graphics to just brag, i'm just stating...if you're gonna proclaim consoles looks better, then i'm going to just have to lay down the facts and bring back some people to reality.

They're not gonna hand you this magical console that can out produce a $2000 PC's graphics, for a mear $400-500..yet some people still believe they would and infact have. You DO NOT have the leet box 1000. You have a 7 series graphics card, 512mb of RAM and an entry level dual core style CPU. ( I know it's more than 2 cores. Just comparing power wise)

Most people also disregard the other uses of a gaming PC. Gaming PC's are the most powerful of all computers. You can use them for photoshop, internet, multimedia, DVD burning...music, games, videos...jeeze anything you can think of. You're spending your money for that also...NOT just games. It's not like that computer will only play games and that's it. You act like its obsolete for every other task and it can only hope of playing Crysis, and that's it.

This isn't about PC's being better than consoles. It's about posers who pretend to know what they're talking about. Who make these statments and are TRULY convinced about certain known false ideas. The facts remain. Most people who hate gaming PC's, don't have the money for one. They've also never spent a good month playing on one. Just because you don't own something, doesn't mean you can't be a fan. I know a lot of people have self pride about what systems they own, but c'mon. It's like me hating a Ferarri just because i don't own one. YEAH RIGHT..my ass would hop in one the second i was able to.

I'm just going to go on a little rant I have been waiting for a appropriate thread to post in.

Consoles have guaranteed playable performance and high definition, at least that is what they will argue at you. See my observation has been quite different, I've found consoles guarantee nothing.

Halo 3 was not 720p, there was a big reaction when this was discovered but time and pride has attempted to sweep it under the rug. Game play is after all what matters right? They still think it is a good looking game so what is the loss of some pixels? Well you see they promised you 720p or better in every game as this is the 'HD generation', the back of the box said 720p, this is called false advertising.

But they forgot about it, rationalizing why it doesn't matter whenever it is brought up. Why do they accept this? Because there isn't a thing they can do about it, developers/console manufactures are under complete control and they have to accept whatever they decide to do.

In Metal Gear Solid 4 there was frequent frame rate drops below 30, this is not only perceivable by noticeable stutter but there are frame rate measurements around the web showing it even hit 24fps at times. What happened to the guaranteed 30fps that console users boast? This game was in development for years, they had every opportunity to utilise the PS3 to its best and they cannot even maintain a 30fps standard. What can PS3 users do? They can do jack all, they have to put up with the game being in this condition permanently.

These are not isolated events, this happens on both 360 and PS3, it is something they have to come to terms with as they have no say in the quality of the experience.

Well that is unacceptable to me, console users may be willing to put up with it for the convenience of having a standardised experience but I don't like the helplessness of taking what you are given. I dictate what resolution I play at, I dictate whether I'm willing to put up with a stuttery frame rate or a liquid smooth one. On PC I am in control, I decide the quality of my experience and if there is ever something I dislike I have the freedom to do something about it.

AnnoyedDragon

+100 :)

[QUOTE="LesFinalFantasy"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

As a PC gamer, I find this a bit offensive.

You're essentially stating that the vast majority of people who prefer consoles over PCs do so because they're either ignorant or stupid.

To be frank, I don't see many people idiotic enough to claim that consoles are superior in value (looking at you r_game) or graphics. And when they do, well other console fanboys generally don't support them.

aliblabla2007

That is 100% correct. They then have the balls to proceed and state their crap opinions as facts. They haven't even participated in PC gaming, but want to make factual statments. I honestly don't get it...people know they're wrong and just talking a bunch of crap, yet they still pretend and live in this false universe. Some people are still convinced the "Cell" murders every PC. Truthfully, i'm sick of these little broke kids who try to ruin and bash PC gaming. They haven't had the chance to know what it's like...so leave the subject alone.

Ever thought that some people just prefer console gaming because they prefer the games, or contols or whatever?

Please. Even I don't think that the PC is the end-all-be-all in terms of games, it's just the best for me. However, if you can't see that people might like 3D platformers, action-adventure and such over FPSs, RTSs and MMORPGS, then it's just pure closemindedness. (And yes, I know that the PC has more genres than those, just picking out examples)

Then as i stated; that's cool. For these people who rag on the PC, with absolutely no experience, nor gaming PC to go along with all that talk...it's just something i felt like i had to say.

Don't act like you are repulsed by PC gaming, just because it may be out of your reach. I see far too many people who act like they'd be offended to set their hands on a gaming PC.

To those giving that "Get a job" remark:

Yeah, a lot of us have jobs. We just don't make priority no. 1 to buy video games. For me it's food, fuel, film equipment, clothes, other fantastic interests, then all the way down the bottom is games.

It leaves me with about a $20 budget per month to buy a game, and that's if I want buy one.

So yeah, it is true that earning $1000 a month will let you play all the games on all the systems. The other aspects of your life, if you have any, are most likely to be setback though.

FrozenLiquid

If you have all that going on in your life, you need to STOP gaming and prioritize your life so you can actually get a career started where you can MAKE some good money.

Trust me, you can afford ANYTHING if you try hard enough. I've seen poor people with Caddalacs. If you want something...go get it.

I recently saw the thread for owners of all 3 consoles which was their favorite of all 3 and I was suprised how many responces the TC got. How can anyone honestly afford all 3 systems and have a decent library for each without being a stuck up rich kid? No one in the real world I know has all 3. radicalplace

A job? Some monivation and dedication.

[QUOTE="death919"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]that is because bulding a PC and setting everything up is a daunting task unlessyou or someone you know has plenty of knwoledge in that department. plus, consoles are hardly the price of a MONITOR and offer you INSTANT GAMING. it's easy to see why they're so popularPC360Wii

1 Yourtube video and you can do it yourself.

Do exactly the same? send it somewhere... for what? $25 check and fix?

A broken part is a broken part. chances are very low. in which case all your parts have 3+ year warranties.

Not to mention; if your Xbox 360 or PS3 takes a crap, you have to send that sucker away for 3 weeks and WAIT for UPS. Then they usually kick the box and break it again. It's a vicious circle.