[QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Liberalicide"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="jointed"]I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a simple question:
If all races are basically the same, why was the Europeans (whites) far superior to the other races when it came to civilized behaviour and technology before they introduced it to the other races?
Again, I'm only asking, and I'm interested in what your answers might be.
Vfanek
Europeans just happened to be the ones that survived. Persia was civilized, just like Ancient Greece. But Philip II was born, and so was his son, Alexander III. Men, jsut as great as Cyrus (the ..creator of Persia), came in the right time, at the right place. What did it lead to? Eastern civilization fell to western hands, having only a half competent king (Darius III), they couldn't stand up on their own. Persia was conquored, and you all know the rest of the story. Alexander died, and his empire scattered. Ruining the Persian civilization, but keeping the western.
Same would have happened if it wasn't for Leonidas and the Spartans, if Xerxes had won, don't you think that today would be a little different? History wouldn't even be recognisable.
from what i gather of the persian empire, it was actually quite lously put together (large numbers, but almost none of them true warriors... rather slaves) and even if the great spartans fell I think someone else could have picked up the slack. Keep in mind the men and women of europe were pretty bad ass back in those times
That is quite - false. The Persian Empire was ruled by a king, and it wasn't more "barbaric" than other nations. Many European coutnries have been far more cruel. Slaves and slaves.. well, many were forced to fight. But it remains in modern times, if the US orders a draft.. will you not be a slave, at least temporarily?
It wasn't a wannabe empire, it was an empire. If it weren't for the Spartans Persia would most surely have occupied Greece. Sparta didn't do much for killing the Persians (sure, twenty thousand is qutie a number.. but was barely a scratch to the Persian army.. physically). What the Spartans did was increasing morale, and did so greatly. The Persians feared the Greeks, who wouldn't after such a terrible blow? While the rest of the Greeks assembled with courage beyond belief. It was probably one of the greatest moral victories in written history.
im not saying it wasnt a great feat for the spartans to do what they did, and eventually what all of greece did. im saying that if a bunch of persians decided to try and take over all of europe, they would have to actually fight ALL of europe. which would b absolutely impossible for them. In my humble opinion.
It would be easy, to say the least. Europe was nothing but a bunch of unorganized clans. Europe was.. nothing back then. Few countries hadn't even invented the bow, Persia would have rolled over Europe without the slightest problem. So would Greece if it was what they wanted. Just look at Caesars victory against the Gauls.. And the Gauls were far more organized then Europe was.
you have a pretty ignorant viewpoint of european history. the bow was invented before there were even white people. infact its called one of the first inventions. humanity had the bow back when we were ALL in africa. as we evolved we didnt forget it.
seriously if you dont know something, dont comment on it. because it dosent help you at all.
Europe wasnt as unorganized as people were led to believe. Remember the roman texts about ancient europe was extremely biased. I suggest you do some research on the celts, and there much larger network with the germanic people.
Persia had many slaves fighting for them. If Persia wanted to take all of europe, they would not only have to fight the greeks, but also the celts, germans and slavs. You mean to tell me that army can take on an entire population of people?
Never would have happened. Not in a million years. you seem to fail to realize that not only would europe basically have some kind of unification by common enemy, you also fail to realize that the very formations the greeks had to defeat the persians would be learned rather quickly by the rest of europe.
Of course, the bow have been around for a long time. But teh crafting and use of it was quickly forgotten. Some nations had it, some didn't. If you had done a little research, you would have learnt it yourself.
The Celts were indeed.. large, but organized or disciplined? No, they weren't. They had war between themselves. Not much of a single "empire".
Persia would, as I said, eat them alive. A large army fighting many small every now and then, not a problem. If they all got organized and united, well that would be misfortunate for Persia, but the odds of that happening were low to say the least.
You are wrong sir, Europe was nothing back then.
okay then, prove to me that all people of europe did not have bows. Because as far as im concerned its pretty firmly established that all people had these. and its common knowledge.
the celts were huge, and not an empire. nor did I ever say they were.
Let me explain something to you.
The persians fell to the greeks
the greeks fell to the romans
the romans fell to the germans
the celts also have a defeat on rome as well (But rome came back and won)
the germans defeated the romans, and essentially became "romanized"
so lets take this into perspective. Lets say the persians came to take over all of europe. and as we all know they fell to the spartans, the rest of europe is taking a huge bite more than you can chew.
the persians were not as advanced as the romans, and the celts have a 1-1 record with them. Persia would be the laughing stock of the world if they ever tried taking europe.
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