Looks like a space hulk sort of game. Anyone have any opinions on it? I guess space hulk will be very similar. supertrooper23

It's very good, especially if you're familiar with warhammer and the original board game - a dungeon crawler with a few simple RPG elements. There's a lot of content even if you don't get the Skaven IAP (which is worth having). I've sunk more than 25 hours into it >.< ... I've played full price PC games for shorter periods of time :O .

Do I get to play the game? Yes.

Do I care if it's on another system? No.

Developers are businesses - why would you restrict your audience unless someone was throwing a load of money at you to do so?

*sigh*.

It's as though there's nothing other than Steam on the PC.

It's as though the OP forgot that MS slaps a licensing fee on top of the price of every game that you can't get away with on the PC.

It's as though someone didn't notice that PC games start out cheaper and then get even cheaper much quicker than their console equivalents.

Steam is just one playground of the PC gamer. The console are like prisons - once you're in, there's no escape from their rules and their systems.

I'll hold off on Remember Me, for example. Looks good, but not quite good enough for me to pay full price. Chances are I'd be twiddling my thumbs waiting for it to come down in price on a console from a higher cost...In 3 months it will probably be 33% off...

When the reveal trailer came out months ago, I was sceptical. Now they've actually put some flesh on the bones of the setting (I hesitate to say 'plot'), it doesn't look anywhere as dumb.

It still looks utterly barking, but now in more of a good way. But £36, even with a 10% discount?!?!

Meh. My PC can still do everything one of these new consoles can. I don't have to pay extra for online access, I pay less for games on release and the price drops fairly quickly for most games (that aren't EA). Neither am I going to be hamstrung by a 500GB hard drive.

I just hope prettier console games results in even prettier PC games and ambitious engines.

For most of the world, and EA's US operation in particular, it's not the 18th yet.

The OP strikes me as impatient, if nothing else...

 

Oh I'll definitely give it a playthrough at least. Some of the control and UI changes threw me off a lot, but I'll get used to it. I do like the where the story is going far. Only just started. Just met the Illusive Man.

the_bi99man

When you go back to ME after playing ME2/3, you'll appreciate it a bit more. The control changes annoyed me too (I still always adjust shift to run and space to bring up the overlay in 2 and 3!), but the games are much less clunky than ME1 and the powers are much better defined. ME2 is the peak of the series, and even ME3 is great (and is in many respects a good tradeoff between the loadsa options of ME and the streamlined ME2).

A few days ago I started what is something like my 5th playthrough of ME2 after finishing ME...again...

I've played it for a few hours now, and it does keep you playing just like the earlier editions did. But I sense I'm getting to the point where what I want to do and how the game wants me to play are about to go separate ways. The limited space is becoming a problem, the overlapping demands (e.g. specific buildings) are more of a chore than an interesting challenge, the pathfinding logic isn't always sound for a city (e.g. all sewerage trying to go down one road/pipe and creating issues) and other little niggles like having to load a city before you can donate to the city you've just been working on.

It is much better today, and is actually a decent game.

But it doesn't make up for the complete mess that made me wait until today to play it properly. I'll only get EA games out of the bargain bucket in future.

Now I know someone is going to say something ridiculously wrong like "you should review the game right away to point out any potential bugs" and to those people I say you're wrong. The only thing Gamespot should have said in reference to this game is a quick recap of what's going on with the issues and that it would be reviewed once it was stable and that anyone looking to get this game should think about waiting, that's it.

Jaysonguy

EA made a big fanfare of the online/social aspect of the game. If that aspect gets in the way of actually playing the game, then reviewers need to mark it down since a feature of the game clearly isn't fit for purpose. You can't qualify a review with "8.0 for the 40% of the time it actually works". If it gets fixed, sure, re-evaluate (like Polygon) - but a reviewer needs to look at it "as is" and not "how it should be".

EA tried to be clever with a series that didn't need someone to tamper with. They're paying for it, and my copy of SC3K is looking like a better buy than SimCity, whose tutorial lost connection part way through.