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#1 MeadAndCheese
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[QUOTE="bexarath"]You thought Illusion of Gaia was hard? Wow. I beat that game I don't know how many times. I never found it that challenging. Besides, can it really count as an RPG? And FFVI... I will agree that the game is pretty epic, but I just could never be bothered to finish the last part of the game, since the story falls apart completely. Anyway, here's my list of favorites: 1. Chrono Trigger (SNES) - Needs no explanation. 2. Star Ocean II (PS1) - Great characters and gameplay, 80+ endings, great OST, all around-epic. 3. FFVIII (PS1) - My favorite FF. I'm not really sure why. 4. Planescape: Torment (PC) - Great characters, story, and dialogue. Just plain awesome. 5. KOTOR (PC) - Star Wars at its finest. 6. Morrowind (PC) - Elder Scrolls at its finest. 7. Baten Kaitos: Origins (GC) - Perfected the first game in every way. Great story, wonderful characters and humorous dialogue. 8. FFV (SNES) - My favorite old-school FF. What can I say? 9. Phantasy Star I (SMS) - My first real introduction to RPGs. Really great for its time, in graphics, gameplay, and story. 10. FFVII (PS1) - Had to be here. Honorable mentions go to Tales of Symphonia (GC), Skies of Arcadia (GC), and Breath of Fire IV.bexarath

Not sure I get this one, I found that game to be all around kinda meh.

I also must have played a crappy FFV (PS1 version slow load times and all) but it may have tainted the game for cause I didn't kind it to be all that great. Job system was neat and all but honeslty who used a good majority of the weaker jobs? It gave that bad taste in my outh like FF3 DS did, so many jobs, so many usless ones to.

Just my opinions. For BK:O, I mostly loved the characters and the dialogue, and the story was really intriguing, but I can see how it wouldn't appeal to everyone. As for FFV, I liked how the job system gave such variety. Sure there were crappier jobs, but they just gave the opportunity for a more challenging game. I also really liked the soundtrack in that game.

Battle on the Big bridge! Yeah man that game did have rocking tunes like Mystic quest style XD I forgot. Maybe it should hold a place up there I forgot about so much of that game. It was hella long as I remember and yeah I guess weaker jobs give a challenge, but if you want a challenge I dont think RPG's are the place for it : /

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#2 MeadAndCheese
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Earthbound doesn't even deserve to be up there. And where's Final Fantsay V? Or Dragon Quest V or VI? You're counting games that weren't released in America, so those should count too.Video_Game_King

Cant say I played the Dragon quest games all that much, played all the dragon warriors back on the NES, but yeah. Hmm I will read up on the ones you mentioned and see if they can take a spot from one of the other games ( Cough FF7 cough)

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You thought Illusion of Gaia was hard? Wow. I beat that game I don't know how many times. I never found it that challenging. Besides, can it really count as an RPG? And FFVI... I will agree that the game is pretty epic, but I just could never be bothered to finish the last part of the game, since the story falls apart completely. Anyway, here's my list of favorites: 1. Chrono Trigger (SNES) - Needs no explanation. 2. Star Ocean II (PS1) - Great characters and gameplay, 80+ endings, great OST, all around-epic. 3. FFVIII (PS1) - My favorite FF. I'm not really sure why. 4. Planescape: Torment (PC) - Great characters, story, and dialogue. Just plain awesome. 5. KOTOR (PC) - Star Wars at its finest. 6. Morrowind (PC) - Elder Scrolls at its finest. 7. Baten Kaitos: Origins (GC) - Perfected the first game in every way. Great story, wonderful characters and humorous dialogue. 8. FFV (SNES) - My favorite old-school FF. What can I say? 9. Phantasy Star I (SMS) - My first real introduction to RPGs. Really great for its time, in graphics, gameplay, and story. 10. FFVII (PS1) - Had to be here. Honorable mentions go to Tales of Symphonia (GC), Skies of Arcadia (GC), and Breath of Fire IV.bexarath

Not sure I get this one, I found that game to be all around kinda meh.

I also must have played a crappy FFV (PS1 version slow load times and all) but it may have tainted the game for cause I didn't kind it to be all that great. Job system was neat and all but honeslty who used a good majority of the weaker jobs? It gave that bad taste in my outh like FF3 DS did, so many jobs, so many usless ones to.

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#4 MeadAndCheese
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Star Ocean had all the elements of Star Ocean 2 (character recruit, solo town exploration etc), and it was SNES game with better story and combat system.

Breath of Fire 4 was better than Breath of Fire 3 by large margin. Breath of Fire 2 was one of the most disappointing RPGs of SNES era.

Final Fantasy VII uses the traditional ATB system that is widely popular and enhanced it with materia system which gave player freedom to customize it as they want. Sephiroth is still widely known as one of the greatest villian and had set of one of the most interesting cast of characters.

Also, where's Grandia?

TriangleHard

Seph is lame get over it. Sorry to tell all of you FF guys but FF7 is 4th in the greater of the series.

People saying Tales of destiny is junk.. and I thought you were all gamers.. Sigh. Grandia 1 was not as good it was boring the Voice acting for battle scene was as bad as the voice over for advent children.

Secret of Evermore is by the best Action/RPG/Adventure ever made. Well that i have played thats forsure.

Breath of Fire 2 started most of the great elements of the breath of fire games. Your own town, good charecters (Great if one was Blue) and it didnt drag out like number 4. Which by far the worst of the 4 that I played. It didnt follow the breath of fire tradition story like the other 3, I dont even get why its a breath of fire ? Ryu Kills god thats the game and thats the way it should stay, it didnt change for 3 runs why change at 4?

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#5 MeadAndCheese
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I can't believe you put Secret of Evermore on top 10........

Also Breath of Fire 2 was pretty bad. Poor balance between characters, poor pacing, poor storyline. Breath of Fire might've had more simplier combat system, but it had better pacing and better storyline with better character balance.

And I can't believe you didn't put Star Ocean on SNES top 10 list.

And Legend of Mana over FFVII? C'mon. And no Valkyrie Profile and there is Breath of Fire 3? Which is easily worst of the series?

Also Suikoden series is good, but not that good.

You need to work that list again.

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No I dont well not with all of that, and to me FF7 barely should make that spot. Valkyrie Profile is the only place your right! Star Ocean on Snes was not better then any of the games I listed. Breath of Fire 2 and 3 are great games, Legend of Mana rapes FF7's Uninspied gameplay, and craptastic villian and main charecter are the reason for it failing so hard. Sepheroth was as lame as Death-X from FF5. Cloud was as cry baby as Cecile from FF2.

After I have thought about it am putting FF7 wher it belongs.

I will be adding the 2 following games they skipped my mind for some reason. * Super mario RPG, and Valkyrie Profile.

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#6 MeadAndCheese
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Okay so most of us have seen OUR THE Tidus22 fail epically over and over, but this is where I draw the line. His list was so made of fail I will have to write my own. Not only will I write my own but I will write one for every console that I think is worthy of an RPG top 10 list.!!

Sadly never owning a PS2 and being to stubborn to give up my GC for the better console. I cannot and will not make a PS2 list, I can only from my hand make a well made SNES and PS1 list. Also I don't play many RPG's on PC. Many say Oblivion was a great game, think about this I beat the D.brother hood, thief chain, mage chain, warrior chain, Gladiator chain, and Main story until it bugged out on the siege of that snowy town ( Cheydenhal maybe : / well w/e it was) all well staying at level 2. That isn't what I would call a good game, still a very good game to mess around in though, Fallout though! Now that is a game! What was that sweet perk Splatter house? That made everyone die in the most horrible way XD to awesome! Nes doesn't need a list its all good.

Lets start with the grand champ of all console gaming SUPER F***ing Nintendo!

Snes

1. Chrono trigger - Its the best RPG that has been made to date, its only competition is whats in number 2.

2. Final Fantasy 3/6 - If you think FF7 needed a movie and not FF6? Your a fanboy! This story is so damn good and Kefka is so damn badass, its not even funny!

3. Earth Bound/ Secret of mana 3/Seiken Densetsu 3 - This game is so damn good it is 1st on my list. Nothing will replace it! RUNAWAY 5!!! This game is soo good it has its own Rap song, and its pretty damn good, and I don't even like rap. http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01424/ SM3 was very well made, as far as I know there wasnt a SM2 realease or I have never heard of one. But it doesnt matter Sm3 takes enough names and kicks enough @$$ for SM2 and SM3 Personally >.> I liked the Amazon chich I liked the way her classes turned out and I always took the paladin as a side charecter along with the super evil warlock mage chich :D. Also if you didnt know >.> if you turn on your first back ground filter and there is a sleeping person near you, it will see under the blankets and show you a nude avatar * Shh* i didnt tell you ^^

4. Secret of Mana - Cannons! Crazy little dwarfs! Upgradable weapons! Multiplayer! This game had all that and case of Balls.

5. Secret of Evermore/Star ocean - Your dog eats face. You could cast like a million things at once. It had great tunes. It had Bazookas. It had more then you needed, but still kept giving! I dont have the will in me to remove Secret of Evermore but after long and hard convincing the light has been brought to my eyes that starocean is as great if not great then secret of evermore. Sadly I had to wait for the rom version to be able to play it :(

6. Terranigma - A rare game, in fact it never hit the states as far as I know, so what your gonna wanna do is find "other" means to play this very awesome game.

7. Breath of Fire 2 - Many say 1 is a better game, but I think the speed and a combat revamp was all that game needed, and in Breath of fire 2 it got exactly that.

8. Final Fantasy 2/4 - I had a crush on Rydia, that probably the only reason this makes the list for me. That and Kain was a dragoon, and dragoons are badass. Cecile was a winine emo dark knight then a courageous yet flaming paladin lose and lose for him am afraid.

9. Super mario RPG -= It could be higher, but it was a bit easy for any RPG's standards. Between frogofushous and other sweet charecters (Axem rangers, Smithy, Jeno, Mario, No luigi *wink*) this game had more then enough to make any list in and SNES genre.. Well one involving Mario or RPG's XD.

10.Illusions of Gaia - It shouldn't be so low on the list, but lets face it. IT WAS HARD, like battletoads hard, if you were a kid without a dad who played games you made it to the pyramid and no further. If you did manage to beat this game all on your own, even back before the days of the Internet guides. My hats of to you sir! ( Was it me or was the Russian roulette glass always in the middle?)

PS1 The 2nd in command has some very fine titles LOOK IT OVER!

1. Suikoden 2 - Don't challenge this its the best, and always will be the best on the system, with loadable date to get MCdaol in your party so he can soul eater the hell out of your enemies how could this be bad, which brings me to #2!

2. Suikoden - You get a dragons castle as your own after you melt his face, then you gather and army and take over your country! After all this you just take your bag and best friend and walk right into Suikoden 2! If thats not epic enough then play S2 and have one of the best female leads ever to be in a game in your party, EVER! ( Better then that sk**k arisis ).

3. Legend of Mana - Unleashing giant movies that had sweet effects with a creat your own map and so many side quests it would make even a vertern gamer tired to do them all this game rocked! Giant talking mountains and trees also make everything better!

4. FF7 - You know why this game is here? Of course you do! Among sweet characters like Barret Cid and Tifa, You had some really terrible ones. Caitsith >.> am looking at you buddie. On top of the great characters though this game had some awesome stuff like a **** load of FMV which kicked ass at the time, but now is kinda boring, you had FULL 3d BATTLES! AND SWEET KICK ASS LIMITE BREAKS!. The main reason i put this here is for one sole reason, its on PC and has been remade with better Graphix and sound and its soooooo much sweeter.

5. Breath of Fire 3 - You got to tell fairys to go out and hunt and kill animals, this in my head is a thing of greatness. Don't question the game either setting out on a mission to inevitbly kill *Blank* just like the other Breath of fires is sweet! For those that understand *Blank* dont ruin it for the non players. Also Turning into a dragon once again is freaking awesome.

6.Thousand Arms - Date chicks to make better weapons... The real world isnt even that cool. Unique combat system and great sotry to.

7. Sage frontier - Massive combos fastest paced battle system ever, learning new movies 7 independent stories 6 of which are great. ( Slaps Riki) Now many side Characters don't get honorable mention in my posts but Gen is the Mother F***ing man! If you don't know Gen you don't know Sh**. To bad Sage frontier 2 Sucked so much beaner.

8. Valkyrie Profile -= Yes this game slipped my mind, but thats cause my burned copy didnt let me finish the game *angry*, It had great combat and an intresting charecter building system where you would send your newly invited Aesire ( I think) To fight for Odin in the war to end all wars Ragnorok ( Armafukinggeddon man!) It had very nice style to the game to you flew around listened for voice and collected sweet weapons and either kept them for your self or gave them to Odin :D Either way this game had bounds for a squel written all over it, it got one who knew :0!

9. Star ocean - 250 level, Infinite Dungeon or so it might have seemed to people.( It was just really deep) and a boss that would eat you alive if you weren't hella good! Plus 40 + endings. Needed multiplayer.

10. Tales of Destiny - Multi-player up 4 people, Sweet tower of Druga, Cool characters and 80+ hours of game, cool spells and skills to boot!

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Captain Skyhawk :DIbacai

I loved that game, when was a kid lining up the entry into that docking bay was hard as hell. That and the level where you fly like a bizzilion times as fast as normal really got me.

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PilotWings 64AntiType

It's like everyne is already saying what am thinking :lol:

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#9 MeadAndCheese
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Breath of Fire VI, otherwise no "explosion" will occur for me.-RPGamer-

I 2nd this, but a RE5 port or downgrade for Wii would sure as hell give me a " WTF ?! Lawl "

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#10 MeadAndCheese
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Hey now, we all know Nintendo isnt serious about online, so everyone dont get to hyped its not like the best game in the world just got online you know..

OH WAIT! Thats exactly what just happened! I made warm Ice cream in my pants seeing this ^^