[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I'm sorry, but if you get offended when someone wishes you "happy holidays", then I cannot see how that's any better than getting offended when someone wishes them "merry Christmas". There are holidays, and they are happy; and there is Christmas, and it is merry. To get offended because someone used one instead of the other is basically telling them, "NO! You MAY NOT be cheerful to me like that! You may only be cheerful to me in a form of my choosing!" And all I can say is, you know, really?

GabuEx

I think what it basically comes down to is a backlash against what the secular minority has been trying to do for years in the way of eroding any and all acknowledgement of Christianity or spirituality from public view. For fifty years or more, the ACLU and everybody who supports them have been shrieking bloody murder every time they see a Nativity scene displayed prominently enough to scar the fragile psyche of a non-Christian child, and it's only natural that Christians have finally arrived at a point where they've begun to resent the hell out of the implication that their religion is something that needs to be hidden from view. Maybe this isn't the best way to fight back, but after tearing the Ten Commandments off of courtroom walls, and renaming Christmas trees 'Holiday trees', and arresting kids for praying on school property, Christians are finally fed up and are ready to say, "Just say 'Merry Christmas' to me already, you godless pinko!"

I'm curious if you have the court case number in which the ACLU received a ruling forcing stores to say "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas".

You know precisely what I'm talking about, Mr. Smartypants.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Generalizing? Ask anybody what they think they're getting for Christmas. Flood of excited answers. Ask anybody how happy they are that Jesus was born. Somber replies and changing of the subject. Literally did this one year. The reactions are predictable as hell.

Ultimas_Blade

I'm sorry, pass what?

Pass muster. Y'know, because you're taking the community that you live in and blowing it up to try and represent all of America.

I'm sorry, but if you get offended when someone wishes you "happy holidays", then I cannot see how that's any better than getting offended when someone wishes them "merry Christmas". There are holidays, and they are happy; and there is Christmas, and it is merry. To get offended because someone used one instead of the other is basically telling them, "NO! You MAY NOT be cheerful to me like that! You may only be cheerful to me in a form of my choosing!" And all I can say is, you know, really?

GabuEx

I think what it basically comes down to is a backlash against what the secular minority has been trying to do for years in the way of eroding any and all acknowledgement of Christianity or spirituality from public view. For fifty years or more, the ACLU and everybody who supports them have been shrieking bloody murder every time they see a Nativity scene displayed prominently enough to scar the fragile psyche of a non-Christian child, and it's only natural that Christians have finally arrived at a point where they've begun to resent the hell out of the implication that their religion is something that needs to be hidden from view. Maybe this isn't the best way to fight back, but after tearing the Ten Commandments off of courtroom walls, and renaming Christmas trees 'Holiday trees', and arresting kids for praying on school property, Christians are finally fed up and are ready to say, "Just say 'Merry Christmas' to me already, you godless pinko!"

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

All this s*** over semantics. At the end of the day kids/adults aren't thinking of Jesus, they're wondering wtf Santa put underthe damntree.

Ultimas_Blade

Stop generalizing. Obviously there's enough people thinking of Jesus for this to be an issue. For **** sake, reading some of the posts on this board would be enough to make a casual observer think that Jesus and the spiritual side of Christianity had been swallowed up into an obscurity rivaled only by the active membership of the modern day Ku Klux Klan. :roll:

Generalizing? Ask anybody what they think they're getting for Christmas. Flood of excited answers. Ask anybody how happy they are that Jesus was born. Somber replies and changing of the subject. Literally did this one year. The reactions are predictable as hell.

Then perhaps you live amidst a nest of heathens. Don't assume that everyone else does.

All this s*** over semantics. At the end of the day kids/adults aren't thinking of Jesus, they're wondering wtf Santa put underthe damntree.

Ultimas_Blade

Stop generalizing. Obviously there's enough people thinking of Jesus for this to be an issue. For **** sake, reading some of the posts on this board would be enough to make a casual observer think that Jesus and the spiritual side of Christianity had been swallowed up into an obscurity rivaled only by the active membership of the modern day Ku Klux Klan. :roll:

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="CRS98"]I don't really care, considering Christmas was never a religious holiday to begin with (except maybe with pagans) and that it's rampant with commercialism.Pixel-Pirate

Christmas is a religious holiday. You're thinking of the Winter Solstice.

I celebrate Christmas and I'm agnostic.

It's been a commercial holiday for years.

Christmas can be both religious and commercial, people. And it is. Why does it have to be one or the other? :roll:

Originally it was, but ask most Christian children and they are more likely to associate Christmas with Santa and gifts than the birth of Jesus.Genetic_Code

That depends on their Christian education. And yeah, for the most part, young children would focus on the part of Christmas that involves them getting all kinds of new toys. That's just the nature of young kids. But as they grow and mature, the Christian aspect will become more important to them.

I don't really care, considering Christmas was never a religious holiday to begin with (except maybe with pagans) and that it's rampant with commercialism.CRS98

Christmas is a religious holiday. You're thinking of the Winter Solstice.

That does remind me of how the GBA remakes of classic Nintendo games (Mario, DK, Zelda, etc.) are really kind of bastardized, though.

I think that mercy is always a good thing. I suspect that this guy had no choice when he worked for Saddam. It was either do what Saddan says or be killed.

sonicare

The Nuremberg defense, eh?