funny thing is they probably delayed ACII to implement this system, hey ubi heres a hint: maybe use all that money u just blew on anti piracy and maybe make aninteresting online mode? You know games like left4dead, warcraft/starcraft etc. etc. etc. games that deterred a lot of pirates with good online play?
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didnt ubi say they were gonna stop making pc games ( stop focusing would be the wrong term as they have never focused on pc games)
Since the dlc is in. i think the price is fine. Honestly the problem is more that it takes way too long to come out for pc, rather the price.Eg i could buy the console version for less than the half price of the game on pc. But if i want to get the pc version cheap, i am gonna have to wait for a very long time till the price is finnally low!!dakan45I would agree to this if it wasnt delayed so much. We're gettings this after consoles, AFTER they get the first dlc, AFTER they get the 2nd dlc. how much is assassins creed 2 gonna be for xbox march 16? We are getting the exact same game but we're forced to shell out for dlc i may or may not want. Every companies dream eh? guranteed dlc purchases. disgusting
i thought it was general practice for the delayed pc port to recieve the dlc free in the pack since u know, we paying 50 bucks (or 100 here) for a 6month old game. When are they gonna charge $10 for keyboard support
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[QUOTE="MondeEdlu"] You look at the constand delays in pc ports, the poor quality of ports, the removal of dedicated servers even. It shows that developers are less willing to work to enchance pc gaming. Look at our system specs, we cld blow uncharted 2 out of the water with every 3rd action game if we had the developer support or as you say first party funding. Im not gonna bury my head in the sand and say oh in the future our aaa still beats urs cuz i think blizzard can milk wow for another 4 expansions.Ondoval
1-The delay argument is invalid. How can you argue bout delays in PC games when games as GT 5, Alan Wake, God Of War 3 takes trigallons years to be finished? A game is usually delayed because the developers want to invest more time to round the product, or to avoid to some extent the piracy of the game in PC, and both reasons are legit.
But notice that even when a multi is delayed in PC the final game is always better: fom Capcom's DMC 4, SF IV, RE5 to DICE's Mirro's Edge, EA's Dead Space... Even when a PC shipment is a copy & past from a console version, still has better resolution, framerrate and filters. This doesn't work in the other way: a phenomenal game as Quake Wars ends in a crapy port to consoles, of Dark Messiah, etc.
2-More about delays in PC: ArmA II to consoles from "delayed" to canceled as The Witcher, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., World In Conflict, Risen, Deus Ex 3, C&C 4...
3-We cant "could" blow Uncharted 2 out of the water because we just DID it. In Pc, Mirror's Edge looks better and has better physics, as Cryostasis, S,T.A.L.K.E.R., Shatterd Horizon, ArmA II, Arkham Asylum, UT III and Crysis and Warhead, of course, just to name a few.
4-I'm currently burying my head in Diablo II LOD, since is still fantastics and has tons of people playing, while awaiting Bad Company 2, Aliens vs Predator, Metro 2033, Brink, Starcraft II, Crysis 2, Diablo III and maybe Rage, Arrowhead, Deus Ex 3... Console players can't bury their heads into games older than 4 years because most of them are dead -no multiplayer in most of cases- and no one wants to play with you a old gen game. This is not a problem in PC, you can still play with people a ton of old games.
5-Playing in a monitor is way better than in a tv display. My tv is a big 46" plasma, but I noticed that at 2.5 mts it only covers 22º of my field of vision, whereas my modest 20" monitor at 0.65 mts covers 38º. The immersion is much better, the controls are better (I can choice k+m or pad/joystick/swheel if I want) and the monitor is cheaper.
6-Xbox Live and PSN has tons of features to improve before being competitive against services as Xfire or Steam. I can join on fly to most of -not rts- games from my friend list, take screenshots, upload to photobucket, show it in the forums, record a vid, edit with Windows Movie Maker or Sony Vegas and upload to Youtube and link it in any web while keep playing occasionally Atl+Tabbing to read in the Diablo II ESL trade forums a nice Ravenfrost deal. The Deep and flexibility of the PC platform is outstanding, not less.
it definately looks better on pc yes but thats purely the result of hardware. Whats the difference between making higher resolutions for pc and making the game run on ps3 (xbox has similar system to pc). why is it ok for delays for pc? the content is the same, these filters/additional pxiels should take just along to make as it does to fix the quirks with each particular console. Are games better on pc? sure are, but its not being developed as one of the core platforms, we have to thank the modding community for making a lot of games looks good as they do (oblivion is an example). blazblue is being released on psp before pcs, is this because psp have better controls for fighting games? ( the general argument against pc fighting games despite the fact u can jus plug in a stick) no. assassins creed IPHONE is released before pc version, do you think that ubisoft would go "hey the iphone guys are done so you might aswell release it before the xbox and ps3 versions since they still got more work to do". No the iphone version would wait, just as dragon age pc version waited for console versions. and on your uncharted 2 comment, yes we currently can render better graphics, but we are not "blowing it out of the water" if we had more pc centric devs who were willing to push the hardware to its limits then wed be seeing some things consoles cant even dream off. most of the games u listed, mirrors edge, batman etc. are all available on consoles albiet at lower quality, what i mean by 'blow uncharted out of the water" is that whats our hardware now? 2? 3? 4 times better than the consoles? looks what ps3 is doing, its saying hey, xbox cant handle this so we are gonna push it, if pcs were on equal footing on developer support we'd be going "hey we got the hardware advantage here why not make some beast of a game". (only crysis has done this to some extent)[QUOTE="MondeEdlu"]
You misunderstand, i think those games i listed definately deserve their scores MY POINT was that pc games have EXPANSIONS unlike consoles.
In this case im counting expansions as one game. Eg. Would you want Crysis+Crysis warhead or say Crysis + Uncharted 2. Would you sacrifice one galactic civilisations expansion for a demon souls or a forza game.
My observation was that the pc exclusive aaa, aa, a, WHATEVER numbers are INFLATED because of expansion packs. Expansion packs are fun but they should not be compared to full games. As for gta IV, i feel that the pc didnt get the aaaa "hyped, working" gta IV, we got the "buggy, extremely high requirements, poorly optimised" gta IV and hence we missed an aaaa.
Even if ps3 only has 2 aaaa, reviewer bias or not thats still 2 more than pc aaaa. The pc does not even have a multiplat aaaa so my point stands in either case.
You do realize that Warhead is a stand alone game right? Should we exclude Halo ODST from the 360 as well? You are picking on the PC distribution model simply because it isn't the same as consoles, so it doesn't count. :roll: Some of these 'expansions' have as much if not more content than some entire games.
You are also trying to exclude one of the AAAA titles from PC just because of poor optimization, even though the console equivalent settings are accessible to most. You are giving PS3 more AAAA titles than it has, it only has one AAAA exclusive; which is MGS4. You are putting far too much stock into the importance of a AAAA title and are trying hard to take one away from PC just because of optimization, its the same game.
Honestly I'm starting to think you are a fakeboy posing as a PC gamer criticising their own platform, you keep making mistakes in your information; as you are far too quick to look for criticisms that you don't confirm anything. You want to talk about artificial exclusive inflation? Let's talk about all the big budget titles that would have never existed on consoles if the 1st party didn't whip out their check book. I'm sure bought exclusives make a fine representation of a platforms appeal to developers.
Oh wow, stop making mistakes in YOUR information. The ps2 has 2 aaaa in total, the pc has 0, which was my point. go look at the link, it says 2 and 0, what is there to argue? Theres no point arguing how many there are for exclusive for ps3 because pc has 0 in TOTAL. I don't know why you keep trying to pick the little things but miss the big picture. I DIDNT SAY PC GAMES WERE BAD, i was making a point that THE PC DOES NOT INFACT GAVE A NOTICABLE ADVANTAGE IN AAAA OR AAA. THE PC HAS MORE EXPANSIONS OF THE SAME GAME THAN ANY OTHER PLATFORM IN THEIR AAA. REMOVE HALO ODST FROM THE XBOX COUNT I CONCUR BUT MY POINT STANDS. You keep listing exceptions to the rule "oh halo odst is like an expansion" - COUNT IT AS AN EXPANSION it doesnt matter You misunderstand again Original poster i was replying to implied that "oh we have 12 exclusive aaa and console have 6 to 8" MY point was that "hey guys a lot of the games on our aaa are basicaly the same game" it doesnt matter if theres more content in the expansions than console games id rather have MGS4+UNCHARTED+DEMONS SOULS (going down the list) rather than GALACTIC CIVILISATIONS 2: Dark Avatar+Twilight of the Arnor+Dread Lords I do not know, galactic civilisations may be better than any of the console games i listed but ur getting essentially 3 content packs of the same game, all im saying is that variaty= better (when we already know all of them will be good games). eg. if someone hates wow (and from the threads a lot of gs guys do), that suddenly elimates 2 games from the aaa possibilities instead of 1, if u dont like GCII then suddenly thats 3 gmes off the possibilities, if you dont like halo then thats 2 games off the xbox list instead of one (osdt and 3) you understand what im trying to say? And yeah the gtaIV comment was to point out that one aspect the pc IS GETTING LEFT BEHIND is crossplatform (porting) developer support. i dunno what cod4 expansion terrorizing was talking about. World at war? id accept that as stand alone tbh since its got a different setting, story etc. from modern warfare. No im not some fakeboy ps3 poster ( though i wanted a ps3 instead of a stupid blueray to come with my tv). Im not delusional either. You look at the constand delays in pc ports, the poor quality of ports, the removal of dedicated servers even. It shows that developers are less willing to work to enchance pc gaming. Look at our system specs, we cld blow uncharted 2 out of the water with every 3rd action game if we had the developer support or as you say first party funding. Im not gonna bury my head in the sand and say oh in the future our aaa still beats urs cuz i think blizzard can milk wow for another 4 expansions.LOL at the comments "hope the have that panda guy"
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u do realise our "twelve" aaa include 2 World of warcraft games, 2 crysis games and 3 galactic civilisations games so we only have 8 aaa compared to 7aaa 1aaaa for xbox and 6aaa and 3 aaaa for ps3.
edit: i also think its worrying that we have 0 zerozilchn one aaaa titles
AnnoyedDragon
So? Your personal preferences in games does not dictate what is and is not a AAA title, no one on any platform would accept that sort of argument.
As for AAAA titles; there are only two out there. GTA4, which we already have, and MGS4. From what I have heard MGS4 does allot of fan service, it's only really relevant to its long time fanbase; which at this time exists almost exclusively on Playstation. MGS4 isn't going to be relevant to a exclusive PC gamer, even if they got a PS3 to play it; the game is loaded with details only a fan of the previous games would relate to.
Also I don't know where you got three AAAA titles on PS3 from. There are only two in existence, one of which is cross platform.
You misunderstand, i think those games i listed definately deserve their scores MY POINT was that pc games have EXPANSIONS unlike consoles.
In this case im counting expansions as one game. Eg. Would you want Crysis+Crysis warhead or say Crysis + Uncharted 2. Would you sacrifice one galactic civilisations expansion for a demon souls or a forza game.
My observation was that the pc exclusive aaa, aa, a, WHATEVER numbers are INFLATED because of expansion packs. Expansion packs are fun but they should not be compared to full games. As for gta IV, i feel that the pc didnt get the aaaa "hyped, working" gta IV, we got the "buggy, extremely high requirements, poorly optimised" gta IV and hence we missed an aaaa.
Even if ps3 only has 2 aaaa, reviewer bias or not thats still 2 more than pc aaaa. The pc does not even have a multiplat aaaa so my point stands in either case.
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