Bioware's shtick of releasing unfinished product was old a generation ago. Bethesda by a goddamn country mile. They aren't perfect, but after Mass Effect...... damn. Bioware didn't even bother patching it it was so bad.

Shame-usBlackley

This is funny considering Bethesda has a history of releasing buggy software. I've never had a problem with any of Bioware's games although I have not played Mass Effect.

That really isn't the easiest comparison...the two companies are completely different. I simply have to say, Bethesda has less games but each one is worth at least two of Biowares. Firstly I have played all the games you mentioned and your missing quite a few out but that doesn't matter, The Elders Scrolls series alone is worth far more then anything Bioware had produced, Although I do like all of Biowares games, they are all far from perfect and almost always feel that they are missing something or they should have done more, I would say Biowares best game is KOTOR. Bethesda has only focused on their main series the Elders Scrolls, Arena, daggerfall, redguard, Morrowind and Oblivion, they then took on the project of Fallout 3 and now they are making Rogue Warrior. I will simply say that if i had a choice to get rid of one of the companies it would be Bioware, although they have made some of my favorite games none of them are perfect, and although I play there games for months it just makes me grow completely bored of their games in the end. Bethesda's games never die, even now I still play Morrowind and Oblivion and Fallout 3, the games just don't die, Morrowind alone takes far longer to clock then all of Biowares games put together, and for me longetivity means a hell of a lot because it usually only takes me a day or two to complete a game. They are also so addictive, play them even once and I find myself playing for months.stike22

Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 w/ are among the greatest games ever made. I'm sorry, but Bethesda has not made anything to match it even closely.

Bioware

I still have to play Oblivion and fallout 3...sigh...

Phantasy Star 2 for the Genesis. I tried to get the original game for the master system, but it was over a hundred bucks and I didn't think it was worth it at the time.

[QUOTE="Mr_Satch"]

The actual rumor had the PS3 going forless w/o Blu-Ray, with the option of a stand-alone player akin to the 360 arcade console.

Nike_Air

Perhaps the price of the two would be less than the current price of the PS3. Who knows what Sony is really contemplating.

The actual rumor had the PS3 going forless w/o Blu-Ray, with the option of a stand-alone player akin to the 360 arcade console.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/160169/playstation_3_price_drop_finally_in_the_offing.html

I can't believe they would actually think of selling a PS3 without a Blu-ray player.