@xxyetixx: fps, racing games, fighting games are all 60fps this gen. Its a given and not what spencer is talking about. He's saying no one cares that tomb raider or uncharted are 30fps. Helll the millions of people playing Destiny dont care its 30fps. People want stable framerates 60fps is plus for most genres

He's right the average console gamer doesn't care.

720p vs 1080p

Bingo.

as a mid gen adopter who waited before i bought a PS4 (decided on the slim over the pro) and will be buying an X1X i love it. Sorry you guys who shelled out $500 for the overpriced xbone. Sorry if you want to cling to your 1080p tv because it's good enough. Enjoy. Having a PC gave me the ability to wait while these companies finally get it right. So now I have the best version of the PS4 and will buy the xbox console i wanted all along in November. I'm loving all this.

I only care about the hardware producers in terms of grades:

Microsoft: B. They promised a 4k console and they delivered a 4k console. My only negatives are not enough exclusives. But for someone who doesn't own and xbone the X1X is the buy this holiday for me.

Sony: C. They didn't really wow or amaze but they kept the ship going forward. In what seems to be Sony's MO now they showed games a year+ away. But they have had a good year so that is forgiveable. All in all solid. And Spiderman is a top 3 game of E3.

Nintendo: B+ they actually made me want to get a switch which I was on the fence about. For that they get my highest grade

@Pedro said:

@NFJSupreme said:

this doesn't need a thread. We have known this for a year and a half now. I'm not reading your wall of text

Its a damage control thread.

if there is one thing I've learned from all the E3 damage control it's that Microsoft and Nintendo have delivered. Cows are definitely feeling some type of way

this doesn't need a thread. We have known this for a year and a half now. I'm not reading your wall of text

what do you consider "true 4k" because i'm under the impression that native 4k resolution is true 4k. What is your definition?

I have the same GPU set up as you for my PC but here where I differ from you. I'm thinking about my living room not just oh i have a powerful PC i'm good. I am upgrading to a 4k TV this year. If I wasn't upgrading this year I would be upgrading to one next year. My TV is an old 1080p sony and it's time. I'm going to need 4k content for my living room set up. Since nothing is really broadcast in 4k the only consistent 4k content are video games and blu-ray. X1X covers both of this. Also I when I'm playing games on my tv i want something as close as possible to my PC experience. X1X covers this. If my only source of media consumption was from my desktop i'd be on board with your thinking. Just upgrade my PC. But it's not. I have a living room with TV surround sound. I like to use it. So for me a PSpro or X1X is a must. Since I already have the slim and the pro doesn't have 4k blu ray or does games in native 4k i'm going with the X1X. I will still have my PC (although to be honest lately all I play are blizzard games so who knows when i'll need to upgrade from my 1060) but to shell out 500 to not really improve my set up seems redundant.