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#1 Neme2010
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Check out this mobo: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141884
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I had used the AMD platform since the Athlon Thunderbirds becuase Athlons were cheaper and gave good performance compared to price. But now, Intel with the Core 2 is just as cheap and offers far superior performance to K8 and even K9. Sadly, at the moment, AMD dont have anything to compete with Core 2. Phenom is not good enough. A good motherboard for C2D is what Im using, Gigabyte EP45 DS3. Cheaper than ASUS and with new P45 as opposed to P35 chipset. Lots and lots of BIOS parameters. But Im just using at stock because the system is so fast. I can play everything at max.
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If you can find an old 6600gt, that will be much better than GF3. What about a Radeon 1650pro, that should be able to play COD4 ok and also not be too expensive. Nvidia dont seem to be interested in AGP anymore.

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I recently put a 4850 into my new system. I had read reviews where people mentioned some heat problems. I can verify that there is a genuine heat problem with 4850s , probably 4870s too, though I have raed lately these problems have been fixed through GPU BIOS revisions which alter the stock fan speed. Anyway, when I checked my temperature, idle was about 75 degrees and load was between 85-90 degrees. Far too hot. I once had an X800XL which died a premature death because it used to run too hot at stock speeds. Along with my 4850 I had also ordered an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev 2 GPU cooler and corresponding Turbo Cooler Fans. The cooler also comes with RAM and regulator heatsinks. Unfortunately, the regulator heatsinks are designed for the 38xx series cards and did not fit, but I used a method that I read elswhere which is to detach the regulator part (saw off with hacksaw) from the original cooler and use that. Its held down by two screws. Works great. The Accelero cooler is as large as the gfx card. Ok, results. Idle temperatures: 40 degrees, load temperatures: 65 degrees. Much, much better. This card should last me a good while. If I had a little extra cash, I would definitely go for the HD4870. These are great cards. It reminds me of the Radeon 9800pro. It was a big jump up in performanceat the time from anything else.
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No. 3DMark 06 is not as CPU bound as 3DMark 01. It puts much greater stress on your graphics card. IMO, all benchmarks that emphasise testing of the video subsystem are useful. I frequently read about synthetic tests not reflecting real world performance. I think synthetic tests are a realistic measure of the performance you will get in real world applications. For example, using a synthetic benchmark like 3DMark 06, one system gets a score of 1500, another gets a score of 15000. It is reasonable to assume that the system with the low score will get unplayable fps in Crysis at high settings, whereas the system with the high mark will get good playable framerates. In practise, with my own upgrades, I have seen evidence to show this to be true. With my old system, I was getting around 22fps average. On my new system, I get 42fps average. This situation is complimented almost perfectly from my 3DMark synthetic benchtesting.
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#6 Neme2010
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I had X2 4600 skt 939, 2GB DDR1 RAM and intially Geforce 7900GTX.

3DMark 2001 score: 25000

3DMark 2006 score: 5700

Aquamark score: 75000

In an attempt to improve performance I upgraded my Gfx to an ATI 4850.

Whilst this did improve my scores, the results were disappointing.

3DMark 2001 score: 29000

3DMark 2006 score: 8500

Aquamark score: 85000

I knew then that to improve performance significantly would require an architecturel change. The X2 4600 was bottlenecking the whole system. So, I got an E8400, 2GB DDR2 and a Gigabyte P45 DS3 board.

The scores went up far beyond my expectations

3DMark 2001 score: 58000

3DMark 2006 score: 12500

Aquamark score: 175000

I reduced the E8400 clock speed from 3GHz to 2GHz to see what impact this would have and also to see if it was only clock speed that was the only factor for the slow Athlon performance.

3DMark 2001 score: 40000

3DMark 2006 score: 10500

Aquamark score: 122000

Whilst clock speed does have a significant influence, it appears other factors such as processor and motherboard architecture also have some bearing. My conclusion is that going from an Athlon X2 to an E8400, especially if its socket 939, will show amazing improvements in performance.