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#1  Edited By Newhopes
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Definition:

Second hand console games resellers

is a community of millions of self-entitlled pricks that think if someone of them had bought a game once, then they can resell the said game to each other until the end of times.

So while your at it lets ban second hand cars or selling your house.

Anti consumer people like you and certain over people in this thread make me sick.

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#2 Newhopes
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It depends really, women should have some rights especially those that have given up 10-20 years in the home raising their children.

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@lundy86_4 said:

@Newhopes said:

And how can you prove a second hand game is a lost sale while the pirated copy isn't?

They wanted the game, and therefore paid for it. In that instance, the developer made nothing. What?

Can you prove they would have bought the game if there was no second hand copies, no you can't hence what your saying is bullshit.

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#4 Newhopes
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@lundy86_4 said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@lostrib said:

@Vatusus said:

@clyde46 said:

Console users buy used games. Just as bad.

Do you have numbers to compare the amount of games purchased in first and second hand? I really REALLY doubt is as bad as piracy. One is legal, the other isnt. PC gamers should stop comparing the two. Thats just reeks of desperation to counter argument

Well except a used game sale is provably a lost sale. A pirated copy is not necessarily a lost sale. and as the devs said earlier, piracy isn't hurting them. They don't find it to be a big issue

A used sale is a transferred sale, the person who bought it cannot play it anymore, there is a finite number of used games for sale and also protects against the game being impossible to find (because the new copies all sold, got discontinued, etc) it keeps the IP visible and relevant long after they stopped making it.

A pirated copy is a copy, everybody can play and keep making copies, the number of copies is infinite. DRM then is used to discourage piracy, which actually only discourage the customers, the pirates have the DRM-free version, the customers have the annoy-ware version, eventually the customer learns that if they want a clean copy of the game they can only get this thru piracy.

Lots of ppl use piracy as an unofficial demo and even after they pay for it, they'd rather have the cracked version because it doesn't give you store pop-ups and Uplay begware.

None of that actually disproved what lostrib said...

You don't need to disprove bullshit.

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@lostrib said:

@Newhopes said:

@lostrib said:

@Vatusus said:

@clyde46 said:

Console users buy used games. Just as bad.

Do you have numbers to compare the amount of games purchased in first and second hand? I really REALLY doubt is as bad as piracy. One is legal, the other isnt. PC gamers should stop comparing the two. Thats just reeks of desperation to counter argument

Well except a used game sale is provably a lost sale. A pirated copy is not necessarily a lost sale. and as the devs said earlier, piracy isn't hurting them. They don't find it to be a big issue

And how is a second hand copy a lost sale?

This sort of stupidity I hate the most.

uh, because they aren't buying a new copy? I'm not sure what is difficult to understand

And how can you prove a second hand game is a lost sale while the pirated copy isn't?

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#6  Edited By Newhopes
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@lostrib said:

@Vatusus said:

@clyde46 said:

Console users buy used games. Just as bad.

Do you have numbers to compare the amount of games purchased in first and second hand? I really REALLY doubt is as bad as piracy. One is legal, the other isnt. PC gamers should stop comparing the two. Thats just reeks of desperation to counter argument

Well except a used game sale is provably a lost sale. A pirated copy is not necessarily a lost sale. and as the devs said earlier, piracy isn't hurting them. They don't find it to be a big issue

And how is a second hand copy a lost sale?

This sort of stupidity I hate the most.

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@MFDOOM1983 said:
@Newhopes said:

@clyde46 said:

I'll say it again. Console users buy used games which is worse than piracy.

HAHAHA no

One group is willing to spend money on a game but decide not to support developers by buying used, while the other never attempted to pay anything. The end result is the same, so lets not even bother playing this game.

Ever heard of the first-sale doctrine?

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@clyde46 said:

I'll say it again. Console users buy used games which is worse than piracy.

HAHAHA no

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#9 Newhopes
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Rolling

In

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To be honest who cares, it already beats Killzone by not been a complete snorefest.