OB is cheating, no fair its a pack of games not a game =[

I like COD 4 most if not for OB [because its cheating!] the mp is just awesome in COD 4 it can go on for weeks...

Dont mistake your lack of maturaty for a games being "kiddy". Just because a game contains simplicity in gameplay or graphicly

doesnt make it "kiddy" or more for hardcore gamers. Distingusing games as Hardcore and casual is just another way for people to

put down games and the people who play them. Sure some games are geared to a more game aquainted aduance i dont deny

but to definatively say this game is hardcore or this game is causal is an overal waste of time. Like i saw LoZ:TP listed as hardcore

when just as many casual gamers play TP as core gamers do. RE4 another game with a large casual gamer base. Multiplayer in

Wii games just out and out sucks. The N64 was nintendos peak of multiplayer ever since then its gone down hil. With Wii so far

being the worst. Now they are trying to master online multiplayer when they havent even gotten a soild local multiplayer down yet.

So far there hasnt been a single impressive multiplayer experince out there on the wii not counting MK because i havent played it.

Mario Party was disapointing because they only did a little with all they had to work with. IMO mario party should have had the

effort and time put in as SSBB and MK because it could have really showed off the Wii but hey theres still time.

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Your pretty much right, but I think that its easy to describe if the game is Hardcore or [mostly] casual, thu I don't really agree with the correct common "casual" opinion.

Personalty, I don't find Okami to be that kidi. True, that's not RE4 or something, but the concept is funny and it has its own special style, which I guess make it look kiddt in your eyes.

I don't see anything kiddy about it really. The story? For all ages, based on mythology. The written? simple and funny. This is the point that you may think its designed for kids, but no, that's just how it meant to be. The charter look? well, its not Maple or something, its different, and pretty interesting and based on Japanese old art. Is there something kiddy in even one aspect of the game?

[Ok maybe the written is a little bit low, but nothing special and its pretty good and funny for the most part].

When most people think of the Wii they probably think kiddy multi-player games. But when you look at all the top games on the system. *based off gamerankings* that's just not true. Most of the top games are single-player and not quite kiddy.

Super Mario Galaxy - casual/hardore - co-op is dull, this is singleplayer

Super Smash Bros. Brawl - casual/hardcore - multiplayer

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - hardcore - singleplayer

Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition - hardcore - singleplayer

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - hardcore - singleplayer

Okami - hardcore - singleplayer

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - casual/hardcore - singleplayer

Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure - casual/hardcore - singleplayer

Super Paper Mario - casual/hardcore - singleplayer

Bully: Scholarship Edition - hardcore - singleplayer

No More Heroes - hardcore - singleplayer

Mario Kart Wii - casual/hardcore - multiplayer

Wii needs more *GOOD* multiplayer games.

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I don't really find "kiddy" games to be wrong, but I just wanted to say that most of the games you listed ARE kind of kiddy games [not as much as other may think but still]. For example, Mario Kart, Super Paper Mario, Zack & Wiki, Super Smash, Super Mario Galaxy. This not "baby" games, but most of the content those games have IS mainly for kids even younger then me [15], not that older ages cant enjoy that, I just explain the other people view.

Oh, here's something to think about. Am I the only one noticing Nintendo is doing a really "evil" thing? They don't give other developers the ability to do Online play. And its been said, that Nintendo is keeping it for itself. Don't you think that's selfish? And thu it makes their multilayer support games [online] sell better, the whole wii suffers from that decision.