[QUOTE="Fortier"]

I mean, isn't the idea that a man could best Satan in anything (like a fiddle duel) blasphemous at all?

Just wondering...

-D3MO-

satan doesn't exist

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And to the TC,that song is drilled into my head after beating Guitar Hero 3 on hard...I'm guessing that's more than likely what prompted you to make this thread...

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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"]Oh, and one more thing. Simple life has already been found on Mars so yeah... ;)Funkdaddy13

Your wrong

"As of October 2007, scientists have not found intelligent life on Mars, either living now or extinct." (NASA)

So you're passively admitting, once again, that you're wrong.

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[QUOTE="LouieV13"]err... you know the bible is fiction right?... feel sorry for you =/LouieV13

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Um, I never said it was non-fiction. Quit making claims you can't back up.

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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"]I never said there wasn't the possibility of a higher being. I do know for a fact, though, that the god represented in the bible is non-existent and was created by man. Funkdaddy13

Then please, present me with these facts, so that I may be as enlightened as you are.

Yea, there are no facts. The higher being you acknowledge the possibility of could very well be the God discussed in the Bible. Please...stop saying you know. You don't.

So goes the argument when you know you've been cornered...ad hominem. Yes, you do need facts. I don't believe one way or the other. But, if there is a higher being, why wouldn't those things be possible? I fail to see why an all-powerful God would be governed by scientific laws of the physical universe. You don't know, and I don't know...bottom line.

And by the way, some evidence and food for thought...

http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/Flood.htm

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/09/13/great.flood.finds.ap/index.html

http://www.allaboutcreation.org/great-flood-faq.htm

I never said there wasn't the possibility of a higher being. I do know for a fact, though, that the god represented in the bible is non-existent and was created by man. Funkdaddy13

Then please, present me with these facts, so that I may be as enlightened as you are.

Yea, there are no facts. The higher being you acknowledge the possibility of could very well be the God discussed in the Bible. Please...stop saying you know. You don't.

[QUOTE="Paragon_"]Funkdaddy13

Actually I grew up atheist, and I am currently agnostic, but I have put a lot of time into studying CHristianity and Islam. I'm just sick of people like you blasting Christianity because you think it can't coexist with science. Who is to say that God didn't create science, and that he didn't guide evolution? Jesus being the son of God has nothing to do with science whatsoever. Science is great, but no matter how many facts you provide, you can't discount the possibility that there might be a God, that the Jesus that walked this earth might have been the Son of God, and that there might be a heaven and a hell. That's the bottom line...which is why I believe atheism is incredibly closed-minded.

[QUOTE="Paragon_"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Paragon_"]And, you do know that science supports the Bible right?xxDustmanxx

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[QUOTE="huladog123"]People usually use this philosophy to defend their beliefs in aliens. We have no idea how big the universe is, because God is amazing and i believe that the universe was made for us to explore and discover new things, ideas, and inventions. Just because the univrse is big doesn't mean that there are aliens. If there were aliens, it would've said that God made them in the Bible. The bible says, "God made the heavens, and the earth" heavens meaning the universe, but earth meaning: the only special little tiny planet that's inhabitible. If there were aliens, the Bible would've said "God made the heavens, the Earth, and mars." or something like that. any disagreements? I only have a few more minutes before i have to leave.Paragon_

You might not want to believe it, you might not want to hear it, but WE made god

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What, do you live in a cave? The vast majority of Christians believe God guided evolution and created the earth in that sense. The vast majority of Christians do not believe the earth is 6000 years old. The Bible does not say the earth is 6000 years old. Creationism is not limited to your shallow fundamentalist definition. The Catholic church accepted evolution as friendly to Christian beliefs almost as soon as the theory was introduced. What makes you think the Bible is a text book? It's not. Science says how, and the Bible says why.

And first of all, there is proof that Jesus walked the earth. There is proof for most of the clashes between civilizations discussed in the Old Testament. There are pyramids, Solomon's temple, ruins of Persian cities...all discussed inthe Bible.There is proof of the communities which Paul, Silas, and others preached to. There is evidence of a vast world-wide flood at some point in earth's history.

What you don't understand is that Christianity is much broader than some narrow interpretation you may have heard from somebody and made assumptions off of. You cannot, I repeat cannot, use science to disprove anything in the Bible. Science cannot disprove spiritual theory, which is what the Bible is really about. Your arguments and your comprehension/knowledge of Christianity are pathetic. I can't even believe you're attempting to talk about it.

You clearly have not read the Bible, or even bothered to educate yourself on it before stepping into a discussion about it.

He might not have,but i have.Allow me to adress you.

There is proof that places in the odessy by homer existed.Today we base fictional stories around events and places in real life more than often.

You are right nothing can disprove spiritual theory,you cant disprove any theory.Thats why its a theory,cause it is not proven or disproven merely an idea.The writings in the bhible are simply stories,poems,songs,and ideas.I used to be a christian,so yes i have read your holy book.

We both agree there is scientific evidence for what the Bible discusses on a historical level...whether or not the stories surrounding those things are true is irrelevant. But the people in this thread are saying God doesn't exist based on their own opinions and interpretations of something, and they are acting like it is fact...as we also agreed on, you can't disprove religion theory. There is no factual evidence that God does not exist. Like this guy above me...he's saying religion was developed as a controlling mechanism...he can't prove any of it. Sure the Greek god were used to explain scientific phenomenon, but Christianityis way broader than that. He also said that science has "disproved" thing that aren't even stated in the Bible, like the earth being 6000 years old.

The point is, we don't know, and atheists should stop being so adamant that Christianity contradicts science.

[QUOTE="Paragon_"][QUOTE="stevendiep_100"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]People usually use this philosophy to defend their beliefs in aliens. We have no idea how big the universe is, because God is amazing and i believe that the universe was made for us to explore and discover new things, ideas, and inventions. Just because the univrse is big doesn't mean that there are aliens. If there were aliens, it would've said that God made them in the Bible. The bible says, "God made the heavens, and the earth" heavens meaning the universe, but earth meaning: the only special little tiny planet that's inhabitible. If there were aliens, the Bible would've said "God made the heavens, the Earth, and mars." or something like that. any disagreements? I only have a few more minutes before i have to leave.mark4091

You might not want to believe it, you might not want to hear it, but WE made god

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When trying to prove something does not exist, key evidence is the absence of it.

On the other hand you can't give me and physical proof of you're god.

I said neither that God exists or that he doesn't. If you make the claim, you have to back it up. i didn't make a claim. The person I responded to did.

And any scientific proof you provide can easily be interpreted as evidence for God. As is typical of people on these forums, you have no understanding of Christianity and how it relates to worldy science.

[QUOTE="Paragon_"]And, you do know that science supports the Bible right?Funkdaddy13

[QUOTE="stevendiep_100"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]People usually use this philosophy to defend their beliefs in aliens. We have no idea how big the universe is, because God is amazing and i believe that the universe was made for us to explore and discover new things, ideas, and inventions. Just because the univrse is big doesn't mean that there are aliens. If there were aliens, it would've said that God made them in the Bible. The bible says, "God made the heavens, and the earth" heavens meaning the universe, but earth meaning: the only special little tiny planet that's inhabitible. If there were aliens, the Bible would've said "God made the heavens, the Earth, and mars." or something like that. any disagreements? I only have a few more minutes before i have to leave.Paragon_

You might not want to believe it, you might not want to hear it, but WE made god

Link?

What, do you live in a cave? The vast majority of Christians believe God guided evolution and created the earth in that sense. The vast majority of Christians do not believe the earth is 6000 years old. The Bible does not say the earth is 6000 years old. Creationism is not limited to your shallow fundamentalist definition. The Catholic church accepted evolution as friendly to Christian beliefs almost as soon as the theory was introduced. What makes you think the Bible is a text book? It's not. Science says how, and the Bible says why.

And first of all, there is proof that Jesus walked the earth. There is proof for most of the clashes between civilizations discussed in the Old Testament. There are pyramids, Solomon's temple, ruins of Persian cities...all discussed inthe Bible.There is proof of the communities which Paul, Silas, and others preached to. There is evidence of a vast world-wide flood at some point in earth's history.

What you don't understand is that Christianity is much broader than some narrow interpretation you may have heard from somebody and made assumptions off of. You cannot, I repeat cannot, use science to disprove anything in the Bible. Science cannot disprove spiritual theory, which is what the Bible is really about. Your arguments and your comprehension/knowledge of Christianity are pathetic. I can't even believe you're attempting to talk about it.

You clearly have not read the Bible, or even bothered to educate yourself on it before stepping into a discussion about it.