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#1 Philokalia
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Not really. There very well could be a God that is indifferent.

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Assuming this entity is eternal and before the universe, it seems unlikely that this indifferent deity would even create the world in the first place.

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#2 Philokalia
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While I do consider Christianity as one of the Religions that has merit, I do not see Christ as the Messiah. In my views it is wrong to worship a man, a man cannot be God and God has no physical idol or form. Also the world is still broken, if Jesus was the Messiah then why is the world not yet fixed? Why are the dead not resurrected?

This is just how I see things based off of my understanding. I do like to learn about Christianity though and Jesus was ahead of his time. Maybe he was inspired by God, but he was not God nor was he the Messiah. At least according to my understanding.

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Well man isn't God, his divinity is not his humanity. So the divinity and the humanity are distinct within the one person which is Christ. As for why the world is not fixed, thats because God has not deemed it the time to be fixed, thats all there is to it. But the historical Christ claimed to be the messiah and if you don't accept that of him you can't really say he was inspired by God then.

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#3 Philokalia
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Give me orthodoxy or give me death.

I believe in God, the true God of Abraham that has no image or man made idol. This is the only God there is, and God is all powerful and good. I follow Judaism, but I believe all the 3 major Abrahamic faiths have merit (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam).

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Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, Collassians 1:15

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Co habitation is bad enough.

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Happy about an illusioned institution? If you say so.

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Egyptian Gods are the logical conclusion after aliens.

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Hearing the same old tired points can be boring yes.

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I think the Pope should publically condemn joe biden, use some of that grand ol authority he claims for himself.

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#9 Philokalia
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] So let me get this straight, we are not truly free UNLESS we are bound by the word of god and the institution that has become the church. No hypocrisy there. MW2ismygame

We aren't truely free till we are of a body which is not succeptible to these urges. As for the church yes we are in the church and participate freely as a community. My main point however is that this libertarian freedom which so many atheists and naturalists want for everyone is a myth, because its not free, your simply giving in to your nature, your giving in to the worst parts of your nature. Thats all there is to it.

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Yes its truethe monks of the medieval era were the scholars of the modern world and keepers of knowledge. Do you want to know why ? Because the church lead to the dark ages. And when the dark ages were over they still repressed science even to this day.

Why would I haveyou tolerate me ? For the sane reason you ask me to tolerate you. You can practice your magic and crap all you want i wont stop you or even pay attention to you. So why should i have to conform to your beliefs if i cant practice my own ? And you say you are intolerant only on certain respects its BS you are intolerant of anything the good book says you cant do. Little hint if this was the 1500's i would have been burned at the stake because i did not share your belief.

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Actually the vacume of power lead to the dark ages which was filled by the pope and I think considering all the hardships medievil europe went through they did a good job with what they had. But the dark ages were not so dark. So give an example of active repression of science within the medievil age. Sure you will go to galileo and completely miss the point that it was rather because Galileo insulted the pope that he was put under house arrest for the rest of his life. You can do that but you won't find this mythology which Dan brown produces of an active effort on part of the church to stop natural science on a wholescale level. Its a total myth. But your welcome to try and rpove the untrue true. I won't stop you.

Also do you not notice that huge contradition> The monks were hte keepers of knwoeldge yet there was an active effort on part of the church apparently to repress scientific innovation and discoveries? Monks belonged to the church, so what your saying actually makes no sense.

So I am to tolerate you desecrating the sacred host? Which is not magic because theres nothing magical about it. And yeah I am intolerant to people on certain issues, as we all are. But I like how you put medievil western Christianity on to me as If I am bound by the actions of certain people to accept the responsibility of their sins when that book that you say is responsible for my intolerance actually says the son shall not bear the sins of the father but I guess that doesn't apply all of a sudden when it is convenient. By the way, perhaps those protestants who burned witches might have burned me because I am an orthodox Christian.