If I was jamaican it would piss me off fa sho.
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That is my current favorite lyric from the song "tribes at war" On Nas and Damian Marley's Distant Relatives album.(It is spoken by K'naan)
What is your favorite lyric, quote, poem, etc at the moment?
I've run 10ks without it, but it is nice to have the distraction and the beat to keep your feet going.
The israeli soldiers were boarding a ship in international waters, they have no right to do that so the people on the boat has justification to defend themselves. Israel deserves all the criticism.kuraimenThis is a classic case of oversimplification right here. It ignores every single fact regarding the incident besides a few select ones to attempt to make the event seem like something different than it actually was.
Anybody who blames Israel for this incident because they chose to board the ships before they reached Gaza waters (because of nightfall I guess) instead of the people who were driving their ships straight at a blockade and ignoring all warnings to turn away, is in my opinion obviously biased at best. Seriously people, who is at fault: the people who had made their intentions known of breaking Israel's blockade and causing an incident or Israel for stopping them a few hours early?
It is ridiculous that all the Israel haters would rather argue over a technicality about Israel's decision to land on the ships at nightime in international waters as opposed to daytime when it was closer to Gaza, rather than the activists who were trying to cause an incident and attacked Israeli soldiers with lethal force when they boarded the ship. All they would have had to do was lie down and get arrested and nothing would have changed, but they would rather sacrifice their lives for one of the stupidest causes I could think of.
What anyone should do. Find the bully in the hallway and called him a B**** when he starts to react, proceed to pound your head into lockers and injuring oneself (the more it looks like Jim Carey in Liar Liar the better) until he gets freaked out and backs off.
I can understand why Turkey is upset and demand an investigation, but Turkey has gone way overboard in their onslaught of accusations thrown at Israel.
A proper example would be a man holding a gun approaching a group of police officers who are telling him to drop his weapon, in my opinion. While Israel may not have known what kind of force they were capable of, there is no doubt that Israel made everything very clear for the approaching ships.
Like i said before, international waters is more of a technicality at this point. Im not saying that they shouldn't have waited, but either way this conflict would have happened. Their intentions were known and Israel warned them to turn away or at least go to a port for inspection, thus the heart of the conflict is not international waters, like you claim but the decision of the ships to continue on their course to Gaza and then attack soldiers that boarded the ship[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"]
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If they are inside Israeli territorial waters, then yes, they are justified to use force against them. However, the incident took place inside international waters and in this case the people aboard the ships have the right to resist them.
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It isn't a technicality. It is a huge major point of the whole event. Thats like saying it'd be okay for me to murder someone who was planning to kill someone instead of waiting till they did it and having them executed legally. If I did that it would still be murder, not a technicality.
It doesn't matter what Israel believed they were planning to do. International waters are not Israels and Israel has no authority to assert it's authority over foreign ships outside of it's waters no matter what they say. No country gets this right.
I don't think your example of murder is anything like a ship whose destination is already set, is ignoring orders and warnings from Israel, and charging into a blockade. Israel jumped the gun by a couple hours, but that does not change the heart of this event, as you would like to believe. Israels mistake was an issue of timing, the relief ships are still the initiators of the conflict and the violence on board the ships. Any objective eye should be able to see this. You are placing all the blame on israel over border technicalities when the problem is much deeper. It is obvious you have chosen a side and will pull any small wrongdoing on Israels part to lay all the blame on them.
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