pretty hard to agree with evolution when the other side puts forth some very compelling arguments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4

Just wondered what everyone's opinion on them was. I know the NFL and MLB give these outs, not sure about the NBA or NHL. Should teams get a ring for being the runner up?

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I have troubled believing that humans are solely repsonsible for the state of the climate, seems arrogant to think we can control the climate by simply regulating CO2 levels. I always hear climate change advocates say that "if we eliminate C02 the climate would become "normal" again...to date no professor who openly pushes the idea of climate change can define what a "normal" climate state is for the Earth because it has never existed, the climate has changed over millions of years and will always do so, it is dynamic, not static.

Audacitron

I hear this line again and again from denialist sources. Some variation of "it's arrogant to think we can have an affect on the climate".

I say it's arrogant to assume the opposite. Look at the planet from space.

You can see human activity on every continent. From the deforestation, the patchwork quilt of industrial agriculture, the dark stain of the BP oil spill. It's all there. You don't even have to zoom in. It's clear that we are having a massive impact on the ecology, the ecosystem, the environment on every level.

Are we going to ruin the climate forever? Unlikely. But we damage it in ways that will effect humanity, biodiversity, that will greatly shape the world we all share. How long did it take to recover after the last mass extinction? We can't afford to wait a hundred thousand years or however long for things to recover from the damage we do.

I agree that we are having an impact on the ecosystem in terms of species diversity, polluting rivers etc..but I stop short of, the increase in temperatures occuring in recent decades is due soley to the emission of C02. What do you beleive would happen If we stopped all factories tomorrow and C02 emissions, what would occur to the environment? Why is it so impossible to believe that the planet can naturally heat and cool, face it humans do not fully understand the weather cycles of this planet.

As I said before we should fix the environment on a local scale, this crusade on C02 is drawing attention away from several other important environmental issues.

I have troubled believing that humans are solely responsible for the state of the climate, seems arrogant to think we can control the climate by simply regulating CO2 levels. I always hear climate change advocates say that "if we eliminate C02 the climate would become "normal" again...to date no professor who openly pushes the idea of climate change can define what a "normal" climate state is for the Earth because it has never existed, the climate has changed over millions of years and will always do so, it is dynamic, not static.

I am still for regulating industry, I do not like C02 emmissions from factories due to the health issues, and am more than willing to support pollution laws. I think local iniatives are the best solution, worldwide crusades against climate change that act like the world is about to implode anyday now do not convince the larger public.

nice to see the 75% was voted down, I'd say taxing over 50% of what a person earns is going too far.

Same as when facebook updates its layout, it sucks. Not sure why these websites feel the need to fix things that are not a problem, but hey obviously I am going to keep using the site so can't complain that much.

I was just wondering what the odds are that Rockstar will ever release another Manhunt game? I really enjoyed Manhunt 2, but I know how hard it was for Rockstar to get the game released. I guess I am just kind of surprised that an "anti-video game lobby" may have actually successfully killed off a series.

Paper mario was an amazing game. I remember when I got it and my older brother laughed at the title and thought the game would suck. He was pleasantly surprised. Never tried TTYD, but it is definitely a game I will play eventually.

Also Super Mario RPG is brilliant, is actually my favourite game of all time.

For it would be Sonic blast (was my first sonic game and game gear game)

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I agree that it is kind of ridiculous, I mean most of the people alive in Japan were born after WWII. It is important to remember the past, but at a certain point people need to move on. Think about the present, Japan is a democracy that now cares about human rights. China treates Tibet like crap and is a nation full of human rights violations.

one_plum

If the German government started editing history textbooks and taking an ambiguous stance on its past atrocities, people wouldn't be offended?

I never meant that Japan should rewrite history. Their history textbooks should continue to acknowledge atrocities. My issue is when Japanese citizens born 30 years after the war have to stand up and apologize for something their ancestors did. At a certain point people are going to have to move on. Should the Japanse governemnt have to continue to apologize 100 years from now?

Also my point stands, we need to focus on current events. Japan is a democracy and advocates human rights, China is a dictatorship carrying out countless human rights violation (do you not see the hypocrisy of chinese youths demanding an apology for atrocities that they never experienced, while currently treating Tibet horribly?).