[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I don't think it's ok. Islam strictly forbids images of the Prophet. It's one of their core beliefs/teachings. It's not an insane belief, or asking every human in the world to do something outlandish for Islam, just don't use his image. If the same were the case in Christianity all hell would have broken loose over here, and i venture to bet it would have never aired. Some things should be respected, even if you don't believe in it at all.Atheists_PwnYou seem to have a fundamental problem with your logic: We are not Muslim, thus we CAN draw muhammed. Try standing up for free speech once and awhile ;) Not all beliefs deserve respect. If these people were fanatical about the earth being flat, would you defend it? If so, thats irrational. Religion absolutely never deserves respect. Drawing is a clear indication to insult muslims. Also, it is a freedom of speech (typical american response), but that said, this beats the purpose of racism, if people can express their views on racial discrimination and feel black people are inferior to white people. Infact, freedom of speech beats the purpose of any form of morality and respect within the world. Maybe to you Muslims dont deserve respect, but taking the micky outta the dead is just purely harsh. I mean if someone drew an insulting picture of a very close dead relative, that person will retaliate and take offence. Same applies to this drawing.
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To be fair all religious practice is kept in the house and religious places i.e. mosque, churches etc. This however doesnt change the fact people should feel free to what they wanna wear in public. If a muslim wants to wear a veil, then fine. I mean people are seriously going to fine and look for jail time just because of an extra piece of blank clothing? Its not like theyre preeching or forcing anything, its just a harmless material that they wish to cover part of their face.[QUOTE="RazMaTaz0121"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]
Honestly, I think they should ban all religion in public. Yeah, I know, everyone is going to jump on me for this but whatever. Religion is a deep spiritual matter and has no place in the physical world. Why the hell would your God care if you wear a cross, star of David or Burka? Making these dividing lines between religions only creates conflict. All public places should be secular. If you want to believe something, all the power to you, just keep it to yourself or your home and place of worship.
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True. I just find all religious clothing is like a huge "look at me" sign. I don't see why anyone would feel the need to advertise their faith, things would go a lot smoother if everyone just kept their religion to themselves. I don't really support banning Muslim symbols of faith though. It is just singling them out. You would have to ban all religious material to be fair to everyone, and I don't see that happening in the near future.
True but people have their own "dress sense". People dress up like goths, emos, smart, gangsta, hippy etc which is a norm to them. This is no exception, its simply a religious dress sense which is a norm to us. Its clearly not to point n say "look at me im a muslim", infact, its women who wear alot less clothes that try to seek the attention i.e. girls in mini skirt and showing off a huge amount of cleavage and tarting up that get eyed up more than neone else, but again, everyone has their distinctions of dress code.To be fair all religious practice is kept in the house and religious places i.e. mosque, churches etc. This however doesnt change the fact people should feel free to what they wanna wear in public. If a muslim wants to wear a veil, then fine. I mean people are seriously going to fine and look for jail time just because of an extra piece of blank clothing? Its not like theyre preeching or forcing anything, its just a harmless material that they wish to cover part of their face.Honestly, I think they should ban all religion in public. Yeah, I know, everyone is going to jump on me for this but whatever. Religion is a deep spiritual matter and has no place in the physical world. Why the hell would your God care if you wear a cross, star of David or Burka? Making these dividing lines between religions only creates conflict. All public places should be secular. If you want to believe something, all the power to you, just keep it to yourself or your home and place of worship.
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A fine, or jail time, just for wearing an extra piece of cloth on your face for moral reasoning? What a bunch of fools. You know, the more i read about the news of modern society, the more ****ed up it gets.New article : http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/04/2010430191650342628.html
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Muslims, academics and human rights groups have hit out at a looming public ban in Belgium on the full face veil, following adecision in the country's parliament to make the wearing of the article of clothing illegal.
The vote on Thursday was almost unanimous with 134 MPs in support of the law and just two abstentions.
"I think they're trying to wind us up," Souad Barlabi, a youngwoman wearing a simple veil, said outside the Grand Mosque inBrussels, the Belgian capital,around the time of Friday prayers.
"We feel under attack," she said, a day after the politicians voted for the ban on clothes or veils that do not allow the wearer to be fully identified.
'Dangerous precedent'
Amnesty International, a human rights group, said the measures must be reviewed by the upper house of parliament as they raise concerns about whether Belgium is in breach of international rights laws.
"A complete ban on the covering of the face would violate the rights to freedom of expression and religion of those women who wear the burqa or the niqab," said John Dalhuisen, Amnesty's expert ondiscrimination in Europe.
"The Belgian move to ban full face veils, the first in Europe, sets a dangerous precedent."
The law, which stillneeds to be passed by Belgium's senate, will be imposed in streets, public gardens and sports grounds or buildings "meant for public use or to provide services" to thepublic.
"We're the first country to spring the locks that have made a good number of women slaves, and we hope to be followed by France, Switzerland, Italy, and the Netherlands; countries that think," said Denis Ducarme, a liberal deputy.
People who ignore the ban could face a fine of $20 to $34 and, or, a jail sentence of up to seven days. ....
'Disturbing' law
"It's just a pretext," said Samuel Bulte, a convert to Islam handing out flyers and religious objects in front of the mosque.
"How many robberies are committed wearing a burqa?
"I'm afraid that soon they're going to want to start putting crescents on the backs of Muslims," he said, in a reference to theyellow stars the Nazis forced Jews to wear.
Another man outside the mosque said: "The Virgin Mary also wore a veil. No one says anything about this."
Nearby, 25-year-old Said said he was stunned "that a secular country would get mixed up in religion."
Bruno Tuybens, a Flemish Socialist, was one of the two deputies who abstained from Thursday's vote.
"This law disturbs me," he said. "I believe in freedom of expression and I don't think it should be restricted unless it's invery exceptional circumstances.
"There is no link at all between crime and wearing the burqa or niqab."
[QUOTE="RazMaTaz0121"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Funny, its ok for a woman to walk around with skimpy tart tops and low skirts that only requires a little movement to see their private parts, but suttle clothing like the veil must be banned. Slapper vs Modesty? Ill take modesty thank you very much :) Okay, You can go live in the Middle East then. Where you won't need to put up with the "Slapper" attire. A little patriotic dont you think? This was never a problem for many decades, its only now its a problem, and while there has been no given crime which has stapled people with veils, they feel the need to ban it. Theres no excuse for it. A simple "could you please remove ur vail for identity verification" is now all of a sudden too much work. Theres only 1 word to describe it, and thats "pathetic".We're not in the Middle East here, there's no reason to wear them.
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