[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="Faylette"]

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Like I said, two people in conseuntual sex KNOW what sex can lead to. EVERYONE does. If people can't face the prospect of having a kid, they shouldn't be having sex. 'Nuff said.james28893

No thanks, my partner and I would rather not abstain from sex until I hit menopause. We enjoy ****ing way too much.

Well, if you're that much of an adult, then I hope your considering the consequences. If not, you're simply another statistic, another self-centered, spoiled little American kid that can't think further than their own nose.

:lol:. You're calling pretty much every adult on the planet "another self centred...kid, that can't think further than their nose". There are even animals that practise sex for recreation.

So there are Grizzley Bear abortion clinics? Didn't know about that...

Ignoring the point eh? You're calling those animals self-cented for having sex for fun, you're calling most people on the world self-centred for having sex for fun just because before the foreplay starts they have to look through their funds to see if they could afford the baby that might arise, their hearts to see if they would love the baby that might arise and the society around them to see if it would accept the baby that might arise.

I don't think I'm the one who is ignoring the point. There is NOTHING wrong with recreational sex, there is something wrong with abortion. Simply because you are pro-life doesn't mean that the child MUST be planned. It doesn't mean abstain until you're ready to have children. All it means is that if you get knocked up, deal with it. If you can't afford the kid, go to an adoption agency.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Well, if you're that much of an adult, then I hope your considering the consequences. If not, you're simply another statistic, another self-centered, spoiled little American kid that can't think further than their own nose. Faylette

I have taken the consequences into full consideration. I'm on the Depo Provera shot which has, like, what, a 0.1% fail rate? My partner plans to get a vasectomy as soon as possible. We've taken responsibility to avoid pregnancy. If, despite this, I would become pregnant, I would think long and hard about my options. I would consider adoption if I found a damn near perfect adoptive couple. But what I decide is up to me and my partner.

By the way, I'm Canadian.

0.1% fail rate is irrelevant if you fit into that 0.1%. Unless it's 100%, you're taking a risk with consequences. This thread has nothing to do with options such as adotion, there's nothing wrong with that. This thread is about abortion. It's about stupid, narrowminded people that engage in risky acts with known and obvious potential consequences, and would rather kill their "problem" than be a respectable person and deal with it (i.e. adoption, as you have said).

However, if you're pro-abortion and you have regular sex, then... congratulations for lowering my opinion on Canada.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="Faylette"]

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Like I said, two people in conseuntual sex KNOW what sex can lead to. EVERYONE does. If people can't face the prospect of having a kid, they shouldn't be having sex. 'Nuff said.james28893

No thanks, my partner and I would rather not abstain from sex until I hit menopause. We enjoy ****ing way too much.

Well, if you're that much of an adult, then I hope your considering the consequences. If not, you're simply another statistic, another self-centered, spoiled little American kid that can't think further than their own nose.

:lol:. You're calling pretty much every adult on the planet "another self centred...kid, that can't think further than their nose". There are even animals that practise sex for recreation.

So there are Grizzley Bear abortion clinics? Didn't know about that...

[QUOTE="cirthlanthelios"]

Do I support Abortion? No, I do not support murder.

james28893

You've probably killed more amoeba cells than an abortion in the first 40 or so days would kill (cell-wise).

So all a kid is is an amoeba? Nice way of rationalizing. It's okay, serial killers and murderers always rationalize their victims, making them seem lesser than they are. It makes it okay, then. Right? .....right?

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Like I said, two people in conseuntual sex KNOW what sex can lead to. EVERYONE does. If people can't face the prospect of having a kid, they shouldn't be having sex. 'Nuff said.Faylette

No thanks, my partner and I would rather not abstain from sex until I hit menopause. We enjoy ****ing way too much.

Well, if you're that much of an adult, then I hope your considering the consequences. If not, you're simply another statistic, another self-centered, spoiled little American kid that can't think further than their own nose.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="Nwordjohn"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Nwordjohn"][

If its not a fetus yet and the father agrees with it (which is usually the case if an abortion takes place) then it should be there choice. They should also have the right to go to a clinic without having to be yelled at and austricized by protestors who have never been in the same situation.

xscrapzx

And what of the hundreds of people who have HAD abortions, and now oppose it? What of the former abortion DOCTORS, who now oppose it?

Everyone has the right to protest. Don't be taking away rights people actually have.:roll:

What about the many people who have driven SUVs and now don't? Should they be able to protest on the lawn of every person who drives one? They're killing my ozone!

Wost annalogy I have ever seen. Ever. Kudos. Compare killing babies to excess pollution.. I have SO much faith in my generation..

Listen, people, who here doesn't know where babies come from? Exactly. Babies come from sex. If you think you're a man enough to have sex, you are accepting responsibility for the potential consequences that may arise, preganancy being only one of them. Ladies too, if you think you're enough of an adult to have sex, you're enough of an adult to have a kid. Even using protection, everyone knows there's still a chance. This shouldn't surprise anyone, we should know about reproduction from an early age. If you can't accept responsibility, if you can't grow up, then don't have sex.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that your body is your own body and no one else has a right to sit here and claim what should be done with it. Its a personal subject and should stay that way, its not your business what other people do with THEIR body, you had nothing to do with it so there for its not YOUR business or YOUR place to say a damn thing about it. Now what you said is right people have to take responsibility for their actions and unfortunately if one of them has to be abortion for their stupidity then they have to live with the for the rest of their life, not you or now anyone else. Just them, its a private matter that should not be turned in a three ring circus like most of the protestors make it out to be.

You have discredited your own argument. Putting so much emphasis on the idea of "your body is your own body, and no one has a right to claim what should be done with it," you seem to be forgetting one hugely important factor- how is it anyone's right to kill the kid? Isn't the kid's body (despite how gnarly, bloody, wierd, and creepy it looks) their own? Who's right is it to kill the kid? Like I said, two people in conseuntual sex KNOW what sex can lead to. EVERYONE does. If people can't face the prospect of having a kid, they shouldn't be having sex. 'Nuff said.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Nwordjohn"][

If its not a fetus yet and the father agrees with it (which is usually the case if an abortion takes place) then it should be there choice. They should also have the right to go to a clinic without having to be yelled at and austricized by protestors who have never been in the same situation.

Nwordjohn

And what of the hundreds of people who have HAD abortions, and now oppose it? What of the former abortion DOCTORS, who now oppose it?

Everyone has the right to protest. Don't be taking away rights people actually have.:roll:

What about the many people who have driven SUVs and now don't? Should they be able to protest on the lawn of every person who drives one? They're killing my ozone!

Wost annalogy I have ever seen. Ever. Kudos. Compare killing babies to excess pollution.. I have SO much faith in my generation..

Listen, people, who here doesn't know where babies come from? Exactly. Babies come from sex. If you think you're a man enough to have sex, you are accepting responsibility for the potential consequences that may arise, preganancy being only one of them. Ladies too, if you think you're enough of an adult to have sex, you're enough of an adult to have a kid. Even using protection, everyone knows there's still a chance. This shouldn't surprise anyone, we should know about reproduction from an early age. If you can't accept responsibility, if you can't grow up, then don't have sex.