Nice try, but no way, Codename Kingdoms,Gears 3, Forza 4 and Project Draco are the most important 2011 games and are only on 360

360 - Codename Kingdoms, Gears 3, Forza 4, Mass Effect 3 (real version), Project Draco,Haunt, Rise of Nightmares, Steel Batalion, Codename D, Feelplus RPG, Dust Elysin Tale, Owlboy, Grey Matter, Divinity 2 Dragon Saga, Battleblock Theater, Star Wars, Fable 4, Halo 4, Alan Wake2 etc etc

Add the best versions of multipltforms on 360- Elder Scrolls 5, Witcher 2, Project Dark, Catherine, Trine 2, Bioshock Infinite etc etc

As for PS3

PS3 - Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Little Big Planet 2, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, The Last Guardian, Ni no Kuni

I only want Ni no Kuni and Last Guadian out of the PS3 lineup, i will just rent the rest, and i am buying 40 xbox360 games, so 360 beats PS3 40:2 in 2011

Demon's Souls is mediocre, Uncharted 2 won because it's the better game. Spike got it right, GS was just looking for a cheap way to boost hits.SteveTabernacle

Demons Souls mediocre ??? Ok, if you think so, it is my best PS3 game by a million miles though

I dont see how a 7 hour boring game like Uncharted 2 is better than Demons Souls that gave me 200 hours of pure fun and challenge, they dont really compare at all

What happened to playing games than watching a movie ?

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All that matters in a game now is graphics, voice acting and animations. Uncharted 2 is the most over rated game of last year and stole game of the year from gems like Demons Souls. But anyway back to topic. Uncharted 2 had a crap story, annoying characters, generic action, genericgameplay and big explosions that have been done 100000 times before. Yet it got praised alot for its brilliant graphics, voice acting and animations. I just recently finished Deadly Premonition and I have to say this is one of the best games I have ever played !! Brilliant story, THE BEST PROTAGONIST EVER !!!, Exceptional supporting characters, Very Fun Gameplay, Great humor, Originality unlike Uncharted 2 ( The Russians again YAWN !! ) and an overall great and light atmosphere. Yet Deadly Premonition which is a better game than Uncharted 2 got very bad review scores ??

Upparoom

I am with you 1000%, since i play RPGs and deep games myself

My best games are Alan Wake, Demons Souls, Fable 2-3, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fallout Vegas and yet those got low scores and Uncharted 2 that was a single day boring shooting, a totally mediocre and indifferent game by any standards, got all the praise

Well, gaming IS becoming casual, so it is expected, all complex and good games will have a ceiling at 8/10 in 2011, when a RPG gets 8/10, will be like 10/10 in reality and for real non casual gamers

Nice to see more feel this way, i though i was the last real gamer on the planet :)

Uncharted 2 got a bunch of praise because it's a very well done and excellently paced action-adventure. You act like an 8/10 is a bad score, whilst Demon's Souls and Mass Effect have recieved scores similar to UC2's.

These games that get lower scores aren't scored lower because they're too complex. They're that way because the reviewer feels that they have flaws in their design.

Complex games do get lower scoredby default, since complex means less polished 99% of the time

Of course they dont get low scored for beeing complex, they get low scored for beeing lesss polished, but if they were as polished as a 7 hour linear game would never be complex(or released) in the first place

So, there is a clear choice to be made, amazing games that score low with real complex gameplay and variety or boring linear short extremely high scoringand polished titles

I will go for the less polished, low scoring amazing complex games myself, every time

I find it quite funny what they nominated

-Fable III

-Fallout New Vegas

-Final Fantasy XIII

-Mass Effect 2

there's like one RPG, IMO, in the whole group: Fallout!

What do you think should have been nominated and what do you think makes an RPG an RPG? It seems this genre of gaming has the most debate surrounding its qualifications

I think that Valkeria Chronicles II, Dragon Quest IX, and Monster Hunter Tri were snubbed

Pikminmaniac

My best games are Alan Wake, Demons Souls, Fable 2-3, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fallout Vegas and yet those got low scores and Uncharted 2 that was a single day boring shooting, a totally mediocre and indifferent game by any standards, got all the praise

Well, gaming IS becoming casual, so it is expected, all complex and good games will have a ceiling at 8/10 in 2011, when a RPG gets 8/10, will be like 10/10 in reality and for real non casual gamers

Nice to see more feel this way, i though i was the last real gamer on the planet

High scores today mean two thing only, a polished game and a casualized game, so people dont get confused, the quality of the game at its core does not get scored, at all

Because at its core, Vegas (and Mass Effect 1) is indeed 100x better RPG than Mass Effect 2

All that matters in a game now is graphics, voice acting and animations. Uncharted 2 is the most over rated game of last year and stole game of the year from gems like Demons Souls. But anyway back to topic. Uncharted 2 had a crap story, annoying characters, generic action, genericgameplay and big explosions that have been done 100000 times before. Yet it got praised alot for its brilliant graphics, voice acting and animations. I just recently finished Deadly Premonition and I have to say this is one of the best games I have ever played !! Brilliant story, THE BEST PROTAGONIST EVER !!!, Exceptional supporting characters, Very Fun Gameplay, Great humor, Originality unlike Uncharted 2 ( The Russians again YAWN !! ) and an overall great and light atmosphere. Yet Deadly Premonition which is a better game than Uncharted 2 got very bad review scores ??

Caesar-124

I am with you 1000%, since i play RPGs and deep games myself

My best games are Alan Wake, Demons Souls, Fable 2-3, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Fallout Vegas and yet those got low scores and Uncharted 2 that was a single day boring shooting, a totally mediocre and indifferent game by any standards, got all the praise

Well, gaming IS becoming casual, so it is expected, all complex and good games will have a ceiling at 8/10 in 2011, when a RPG gets 8/10, will be like 10/10 in reality and for real non casual gamers

Nice to see more feel this way, i though i was the last real gamer on the planet :)

These are exclusives I can name off the top of my head.

360 - Gears of War 3, Forza 4.

PS3 - Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Little Big Planet 2, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, The Last Guardian.

Easyle

Nice try, but no, Codename Kingdoms,Gears 3, Forza 4and Project Draco are the most important 2011 games and are only on 360

360 - Codename Kingdoms, Gears 3, Forza 4, Mass Effect 3 (real version), Project Draco,Haunt, Rise of Nightmares, Steel Batalion, Codename D, Feelplus RPG, Dust Elysin Tale, Owlboy, Grey Matter, Divinity 2 Dragon Saga, Battleblock Theater, Star Wars, Fable 4, Halo 4, Alan Wake2 etc etc

Add the best versions of multipltforms on 360- Elder Scrolls 5, Witcher 2, Project Dark, Catherine, Trine 2, Bioshock Infinite etc etc

As for PS3

PS3 - Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Little Big Planet 2, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, The Last Guardian, Ni no Kuni

I only want Ni no Kuni and Last Guadian out of the PS3 lineup, i will just rent the rest, and i am buying 40 xbox360 games, so 360 beats PS3 40:2 in 2011

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Crysis does many things, but some of its most important are done by Fable 3 and Alan wake, like big scale levels, huge detail around levels, real 3D forests, massive physics, dynamic volumetric lighting, HDR, shadersetc etc

Of course Crysis on PC does have better resolution, textures, shaders, more objects, better visibility, better AA/AF etc etc, but that does not negate the fact that Alan Wake and Fable 3 look massively amazing due to using even some of Crysis effects

AnnoyedDragon

You have a very broad idea of "Crysis like effects in games like Fable 3".

Scale and level size in particular, both of which would be streaming based in those games; and hence nothing like Crysis.

If the result is as amazing, what differene does the tech to get there make ?

They are something like Crysis most definatly, huge levels filled with forests is exactly like Crysis, they even have the Crysis next gen volumetric lighting too

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because we heard the same thing for Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3 DLC, GTA IV DLC, etc, etc. Microsoft never seems to keep their exclusivity promises while lems are still waiting for MGSIV to come to the 360 :PChubbyGuy40

Mass Effect 2 is not MS published

There are zero MS published games to go to PS, so will never happen

Zero is extremely ... zero

The issue is not why people think Kingdoms will stay 360 exclusive, when in fact all MS published games remain 360 exclusives forever and ever, the question is why would anyone think will go to PS3 when no game MS published has ever gone to PS3 before ever

We're talking about it going to the PC, not the 360. If it went to the PC it wouldn't be an exclusive.

Oh, and Halo 1 + Halo 2 went to PC. Your argument is flawed and invalid.

And Halo 3, Halo reach, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Fable 2, Forza, Gears 2-3 etc did not go on PC, so who knows maybe ?

Only one facts exists, that Kingdoms is 360 exclusive, nothing else

Because we heard the same thing for Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3 DLC, GTA IV DLC, etc, etc. Microsoft never seems to keep their exclusivity promises while lems are still waiting for MGSIV to come to the 360 :Pkuraimen

Mass Effect 2 is not MS published

There are zero MS published games to go to PS, so will never happen

Zero is extremely ... zero

The issue is not why people think Kingdoms will stay 360 exclusive, when in fact all MS published games remain 360 exclusives forever and ever, the question is why would anyone think will go to PS3 when no game MS published has ever gone to PS3 before ever

So guy, im mainly a PC gamer (80-90%) and i aslo have a PS3 with all the exclusives and console exclusives, i played the first Gears Of War on my PC but i kindda wanna play the 2nd and the 3rd game and also Alan Wake looks sorta interesting, so at this point is is worth investing in a new XBOX for those games?

Siamak8286

Of course, why not ? If you like them