Not trying to bash here, but it is true 500 euros in europe seems a lot. Not buying until it goes down.

About renting, it is easy. You go to your store, get the renting card ans the clerk tells you to become friends in xbox live with the store. In 30 days you will be able to trade with him, and no extra fees!

Hey, what if i just want Kinect to geek around, but not the ugly box attached?

Lol it is going to be so funny when they will reveal the PS4 finally and all the people complaining here will get an even greater disappointment hahahah

@cantonphantom @xiaoyangguang Dude, that Steam story is awful. You had to pay again?? I woudn't even bother. I would just pay a flight to their HQ and burn it down till the ashes.

@neotheinstein Dude, if i buy a console is for gaming. Not to watch tv. And think of Kinect as the new way of spying or controlling who's playing what, sending periodic activity info to MS servers, screens included imo.

Almost all games i own in my xbox360 were used games, because i won't pay 60+ for a game, no matter how good it is. One thing is clear now: i won't buy this console unless it gets hacked. No way i am letting MS go away with this policies.

Also there is something i didn't get. Given it will be almost always connected, do we have to pay a suscription like in live?

I did the same on the xbox360

AC series is one of the most overrated series of all times. The games are just empty shells. It is the same game over and over again, they only change maps, clothes and characters. Never finished the first one, i tried the second one too and had to leave it out of boredom.

@MrFreehuggs It is like WoW