I think Chavo is a good actor and a talent in the ring. His gimmick was getting stale, but what more could he be?
Let's see what Kerwin does in the ring on Monday before we judge his new character. I wonder what his music will be...Probably not 'Oooh, Kerwin....'
cray06

That would be funny if that was his music, that would be too much. I am sure his new music will actually have something to do with being a typical american and along those kind of lines.

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[QUOTE="cray06"]I don't think WWE will try to milk another HHH-Michaels angle.

cray06

Why not?

HHH and HBK work together very well, whether it is together or facing each other IMHO and the fans seem to love it. Besides, it sound like you do not know the WWE/F that well, because they have milked something until it is dry and than some in the past, if it possiblly meant keeping or getting more butts in the seats. Trust me when I say this, they will surely do it again in the future and milk anything dry and than some, if it means possiblly keeping or having more rating and money in their pockets.

I could see it happening, stranger things have happen in the WWE/F.

Undertaker burned Kane as a child and they had a dozens matches facing each other between 1998 and 2001, yet they became a Tag-Team in 2001 and won the belts, so there is really no burning brides in the WWE/F story-line. Look at what happen with Hogan and The Rock, Hogan hit him with a truck, yet they became friends after Wrestlemania XVIII and were friends for a while after that. HHH was part of the story-line in hitting Austin with the Car, yet the next year they became friends and won the Tag-Team championship together.

Anways, the bottom line is that there is nothing that cannot happen with WWE/F story-lines and no burning brides in the WWE/F story-lines, so HHH and HBK being frineds again could happen for sure.

And BTW, I was kidding when I said Christian owns Cena.
A CBL/Cena match (with today's WWE writers) would go like this:

Christian delivers a few low-impact moves.
Christian knows he's only supposed to have the advantage in this match for about 30 seconds, so he puts Cena is a headlock.
Cena battles out of headlock, random move. Protoplex. 5-knuckle-shuffle. F-U. Match ends in 2 minutes. (JR: BY GAWD! BY GAWD! CENA BEAT CHRISTIAN IN 2 MINUTES!)
cray06

Sorry, if I over reacted, I am just a little sick of all of the Cena bashing, that is all. I did not sound like you were joking to me, usually people put up that silly emontion to show they are joking, so I am sorry I misunderstood you.

I don't think WWE will try to milk another HHH-Michaels angle.

cray06

Why not?

HHH and HBK work together very well, whether it is together or facing each other IMHO and the fans seem to love it. Besides, it sound like you do not know the WWE/F that well, because they have milked something until it is dry and than some in the past, if it possiblly meant keeping or getting more butts in the seats. Trust me when I say this, they will surely do it again in the future and milk anything dry and than some, if it means possiblly keeping or having more rating and money in their pockets.

Cena (contrary to popular belief) cannot wrestle. The I Quit match with JBL was his best simply because it was a bloody free-for-all. In a tight, technical, one-on-one match Cena's inability to wrestle is made painfully obvious. On RAW, eventually he will be feuding with the Game, and Trips will carry him through every match (just like Trips carried Big Dave through every match, thank God he's on SmackDown now)

Christian can wrestle. He's a small guy but his experience in the ring shows (he put on an excellent show this past thursday despite being in the ring with Big Dave)

Of course, I'm also Canadian, and a classic Heel fan/Face hater, so take my opinion as you will.
Christian p'wns Cena
cray06

What is this stuff about Christian owning Cena? Would you stop that already. I am bigger Cena fan, than I am a Christian fan, yet I still think Christian is good and I have much respect for him. I have already said many times that Christian will be future WWE/F or World HW champion, so no need for saying my guy is better than you guy (that is childish IMHO)

I am done trying to prove Cena can wrestle good and has some untap potential, I know he does and he has already proven that to me. Besides, I have already laid out my two cents out on the table, some I am done trying to prove my points, because this debate is going no where fast.

[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"][QUOTE="theoryc2"]i would like dx to return on smackdown so i could see DX vs bWo vs Mexicools.sephy37

:|, we will never speak of the LWO again.

I totally agree with you there!

Anyways, Mexicools fits them and sounds well....."cool".

Lesnar vs. Goldberg should have been a last man standing but NO.

Why are there no gimmick matches at WM now?

Kotenks

Because Wrestlemania is post to be more about good old fashion wrestling, that is my guess.

Anyways, they did have the Six-way "Money in the Bank" Ladder match at Wrestlemania XXI, there is gimmick match right there.

[QUOTE="Kotenks"][QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="5465_256"]

[QUOTE="Kotenks"]I AM THEONLY CHAIN GANG SOLDIER *see sig*sephy37

Obviously you are not the only one, after all, I am the one who made this thread and yes I am a Chain Gang Soldier. Screw the CBL+Tomko=Life Partner Collation! :P

CBL? don't u mean Captain Charisma? (that cbl thing was funny tho :P) but the total awesomeness of the peepulation far surpass the suckiness of the chain gang.

Chain gang>>>>>>>>Peeps

Cena>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christain

Besides Chain gang has the WWE title

at least christian can wrestle......

Okay, I think things are starting to get a little ugly, so chill everybody.

Sure, I am a much bigger fan of Cena, than Christian (Christian is okay in my book). But I do agree with you...sort of. I agree Christian can actually wrestle pretty good and could be future WWE/F or World HW champion. So can Cena IMHO, Cena just needs to get pit of the formula a little bit. Also, Cena just does more taunts during his matches, so it make look like he may not know how to wrestle and he only is a play to the crowd wrestler, but IMHO he know how to wrestle and he still has some uptapped potential waiting to come out.

Bottom line: Yes, Christian can wrestle, but so can Cena.

There is my two cents!

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Oh yeah!

On side note: I am a big John Cena fan, why else would I start this thread "Poll: Are there any chain gain soldiers in here?"

I have already stated why I like John Cena in that thread, so read if you want to know why I like John Cena.

By the way, I probably should explain why I was never a huge Bill Goldberg fan, well I will explain myself.

My main problem with Goldberg is a lot of his matches were too short IMHO and I hated how his matches were one-sided run-over the other guy match (I always wanted to see more even matches with him). I mean, can you say you honestly you enjoy watching Sting lose a match to Goldberg at Halloween Havoc 1999 in 5 minutes , that is complete BS IMHO.

Sting is one the best wrestlers I have ever seen in the ring IMHO and Goldberg who has average wrestling skill IMHO, is going to run-over Sting like that in 5 minutes with Sting barely getting any offense, okay? Sure, that was only one match and probably worse case of why I disliked Goldberg and Sting was my favorite WCW superstar, but a lot of his matches were shorter than I would have liked and too one-side for my likes, even when he wrestled High-Cards they it seem be like that.

The_Dude14

I know you're a Cena fan, which is why I used him as an example, because in many ways they are comparable, more on that later.

I totally understand what you're saying, and in that particular case, I've gotta agree. Goldberg should not have run over Sting in 5 minutes under any circimstances, and many of his matches were one-sided, and on the short side. However, what I did enjoy about Goldberg was his array of big-time power moves, some of which I've never seen before or since, and the fact that he could do the majority of his offense on anyone. Even when Goldberg had a quick match, his offense was devastating enough to justify it. It is a shame that WCW did not make him work longer matches when they had the chance, because I thought and still think today that Goldberg had a wealth of untapped potential.

This is also very similar to one of my major complaints about John Cena. 95% of Cena's matches (there are a few exceptions), follow the exact same formula. Both men exchange a little offense, then his opponent gets the upper hand and lands his inconsequential offense for a period of time. Then, Cena recovers, throws out some punches, poses, hits a few Ultimate Warrior shoulder blocks, poses some more, maybe tosses out a hiptoss, hits his spinout powerslam, "You Can't see Me," 5 Knuckle Shuffle, pumps up his shoes, hits the F-U and 1-2-3 its over. The only difference between that and 95% of Goldberg's matches is the amount of inconsequential offense the opponent hits. Cena usually lets them hit a few more blows, however, his offense is extremely unimpressive when compared to Goldberg's. That was the biggest problem with his Wrestlemania match, he followed this formula almost to the letter, and, so, the match disappointed a lot of people, myself included.

I won't argue that Cena doesn't have a wealth of potential, because, quite frankly, he does have lots of potential. The bright side is that Cena has time to improve, and shows the desire to put on high quality main event matches. However, there are alot of parallels between Goldberg and Cena that I felt should be pointed out, seeing as how we are on opposite sides ofthis discussion. As I said earlier, I'll never argue that Goldberg is one of the greats, and I understand why lots of people out there are not fans of his, and that the same holds true with John Cena, right now.

Okay, you make some good points!

I am probably a little harder on Goldberg sense I am not a huge fan of his and more forgiving of John Cena, sense I am a big fan of his.

Are they both the kind of wrestlers that have formulas to there matches? Yes, I will agree with you there.

Does have a lot of offense, as Goldberg did? Yes, he does, even after joining Raw!

The reason I love Cean and do not care for Goldberg, is IMHO Cena has better in-ring wrestling skills and IMHO I think he has some untap potential wating to come out. Also, his matches seem to be much more even and seem to last longer too, than Goldberg's matches use to be in WCW. Thirdly, while Cena needs to work on his mic skills (actually, he needs better lines, I think his mic skills are great), they show potential and still are much better than Goldberg's lackluster mic and character skills.

Fourtly, I am a much bigger fan of Cena's gimmick than Goldberg's old gimmick, simply as that .I know I am in the minority on this board for the John Cena club, but I love his attitude on the mic of how he makes be believe his opponent is in for a beating and how he tells them they are in for a beating. When I am really into your character story-line wise and make me believe in what you are saying is true, you have done something specially IMHO for me.

I know that seems just like Goldberg's character, but I think it is more like Austin's character of I am going to beat you down and there is nothing you can do about that (maybe that is just me). By the way, that is one of the reasons I love Austin, his character of you are going to get beat with inch of your life and there is nothing you can do about that.

Finally, I have never been a huge fan of big men with less moves, while doing more powerful moves. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but in general, big men are not my favorite wrestlers overall. I rather see less move with a little less impact, than a wrestler such as Goldberg, that is just how I feel. I know you are old Bill Goldberg fan from the old WCW days and I can respect that, I just had to get my two cents in on the subject, that is all.