PC will always be a better platform, dont forget all the content you consume on the consoles is made first on a PC and built around the limitations of the console.

Nvidia came out not long ago and said its impossible for the consoles to have better graphics than the PC purely because the PC was also the best graphics platform. If its a question of input, PC also wins out as it has an extreme selection of third party input devices including those that are based around haptic feedback to pick from. If its about social aspects to a publishers console... well outside of the general options via internet, steam has grown to be one of the best out there. Content is another big one, with PCs there is a huge influx of user generated content whether its in the form of the steam workshop or just general mods, players on a PC usually pay less for their games and get more in the process.

PCs can hook up to TVs as well as other display devices, so this is not exclusive to consoles. This is made especially clear with the advent of the steambox.

So what do you get with consoles? Right now.... ease of use (basically plug and play), as well as whatever exclusives the publisher managed to buy out... so basically its game specific.

Im going to predict that the future for consoles is numbered. Consoles are just hardware platforms for existing Publishers. Publishers make their money from games, not the hardware. Thus dont be surprised if they eventually cave in on making PC based platforms instead and just make use of online distribution platforms (like Steam) instead.

You might not want them to give attention or review this game yet. Its such a bloody mess than negative reviews, and there will be many, will hurt the game. Let us users give the craptastic reviews on these games, let ego soft patch it up to playability, then maybe it can get a review that wont doom it.

Haha, listen to yourself. You are so desperate to claim you are right and everything else is BS, that you are consciously ignoring factual information that destroys your chosen belief. Do you seriously think they would delay a game to prevent competition WHEN:

1) They already had pre-orders for Watch Dogs that surpassed their expectations.

2) They would have their shares crash by over 32%

3) They would lose $52 million in operation cost.

Nice try kiddo but no, you cannot make the claim you are making in such a simple minded "case closed" fashion. You simply refuse to pay attention to the facts. Have you considered that you are what you pretend to claim everyone else is?

Sounds like you have a confirmation bias kiddo. Try not to go around painting people in the light that confirms whatever bias you feel the need to have, or desperately want to have.

I do work in Hollywood, not sure what thats supposed to mean to you though. It is just a small part of Los Angeles. Is that really that far fetched for you? Regardless, its not about me or what you want to believe (including age). Why dont you start looking a persons profile before rushing to judgement though. That said, Its a fact that JJ Abrams is indeed going after Ubisoft over watchdogs. There is no reason to make this up. It is nice however if people know the real reason for the delay. LIke I said earlier, its the internet, so its fine to be skeptical, but dont be an ass about it.

Try not to ignore key information here. By delaying, Ubisoft had their stocks drop the lowest in their companies history (32% drop). They are are also estimated to lose at least $54 million in operating cost due to the delay. Their pre-orders for Watch Dogs already surpassed expectations (according to Ubisoft). So no it wasnt avoid competition with AC4, the delay is too costly. What could be more costly however is a lawsuit by a powerful figure in Hollywood who actually believes Watch Dogs is taking from his TV show franchise. Many users have already drawn this parallel and its obvious that Abrams and his studio Bad Robot would pick up on this.

If you want to be a skeptic, go ahead, but stick to the wait and see approach rather than try to dub others as "kids" "trying to sound like a rockstar" and are full of "bullsheet". It doest really help your own image.

That's because these events are being kept under wraps atm and it is still ongoing. The New York Times's business section reported that Ubisoft took a major hit causing their "shares to crash" because of the delay. They wouldnt allow that happen for just "mere polish". There is a legal dispute and JJ Abrams is at the middle of it. I'm sure you can understand why Ubisoft or Bad Robot (studio behind the tv show, owned by Abrams) wouldnt want bad press from this.

Hey It may be that the studio really did want to continue to work on it (as a game artist I can agree with that sentiment), and the lawsuit might be just the excuse to make that happen, but it exists none the less. Like everything on the internet, its up to you or anyone else reading on whether or not they chose to believe it, but make no mistake JJ Abrams is not happy with watch dogs and there is a legal dispute going on right this minute. I'll toss in this bit of info though, living and working in Hollywood, I have direct access to quite a few people directly tied to the tv show. Abrams is not letting this one go.

To add, Watch Dogs was delayed due to a lawsuit brought on by JJ Abrams, who believes the game is too close to his tv show "person of interest". Ubisoft nor JJ Abrams want to announce this publicly at this point, as it just makes them look bad.

You guys really want to know the real reason for the delay? JJ Abrams is going after Ubisoft because he feels like the show is ripping off one of his tv shows called "Person of Interest". Due to the lawsuit or potential lawsuit, the game is getting delayed. You now know where to direct your anger. My source comes directly from someone I know personally who works on the tv show.

Once more people know about this, its possible he may drop his "charges".

And without those very well written and executed infected the game would also be just another Fallout, even more generic.Justforvisit

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It does not come with a manual but it does come with some naughty dog decals. One thing to keep in mind is the digital version is 27gb if hdd space or download speed is a concern.

TheOneAndOnlyDC

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This game looks great and I'll be getting it fo shore

however, I just can't help but wonder if it wouldn't be even better if it had restrained itself to only human enemies, no infected/zombies whatever... and thus retained that sort of bleak realism of The Road

anyone agree?

OmenUK

Couple of points:

1) Sure (not Shore)

2) They are NOT zombies they are infected

3) Whole point of the game is dealing with both human enemies and infected because without them it is just another us against them shooter