Why are there other races still being used then? Because much of the CnC 3 community has practically come to regard the Scorpion spam as an exploit/hack hence a great deal of people won't even use it for that very reason. The bottom line though really is when you look at games people really care about, tournaments with money on the line like the UK one all you see are slight variations of Scorpion tanks spam and nothing else. (Add to taht the fact that the ladders being reset hence theirs no urge for people to dominate that ladder with spam tactics.)

You really sound like a broken record now, my previous post seems like it fits your reply perfect again or maybe your just not worth my time. Your a fanboy because your trying to downplay gigantic issues within the game. I stated before that not every game is perfect out of the box, but I think it's fairly clear and the CNC community agrees that the game came out in a far from finished state, all games have problems on release, but it's pretty sad that your such a fanboy that you can't admit the issues are bigger then most.

You sound like a broken record now, my previous post seems like it fits your reply perfect again or maybe your just not worth my time. Your a fanboy because your trying to downplay gigantic issues within the game. I stated before that not every game is perfect out of the box, but I think it's fairly clear and the CNC community agrees that the game came out in a far from finished state, all games have problems on release, but it's pretty sad that your such a fanboy that you can't admit the issues are bigger then most.

Name me an big name RTS that came out ever that was completely dominated not just by one faction, but one basic strategy for months after it's release, it quite simply has never ever happend to this extent. Yes the patch is about to come out, but the fact remains the game has been in this sorry state for over 2 months now to a point were it's hard to believe a small time publisher/dev could mess it up this bad let alone the biggest one in all of gaming. Theirs a reason EA specifically has developed a reputation for doing just this Gun, though I know you'd like to just write everyone off as rabid haters,

Your also a fanboy because your trying to downplay the community anger, yes all communities have it, but CnC 3 has it to a far larger extent, theirs a reason EA has a floaty on the top saying forum abuse= IP ban, thats because they CnC forums are the most anger filled, mean spirited game fan forum ever. Seriously you are out of your mind if you think most other games have comparable levels of anger in the forums. CNC3's is a cut above the rest simply because the problems the game currently has are a cut above the rest. And your point about xfire is void, sure not everyone uses it, but that point goes for every single game out there. I never said it was a scientific sound test, but I think most would agree it's a fairly good estimate to gauge the activity of multiplayer games.

You need to grow up gun, what do you think is leading you to defend CNC 3 so hard? I'm just giving my opinion on what I think is an awful game, your right the games sold great, but I actually think the fact that it did hurts the genre for 2 reasons, one the game was sold on name recognition only, if EA made nearly the same game with just a different name and characters I doubt it would have even hit half a million in sales, but because of the name it was bought by the masses and ended up turning off the masses as the community has went down the crapper, You'll see when it comes out there aren't quite as many standing by waiting for that patch as you think The other reason trash like CnC 3 is bad for the genre is because it sucks up all the other games sales to the point were other publishers won't even make a profit. Supreme Commanders sales plummited at the moment CnC 3 came out.

So get over yourself kid, their will always be people out there who hold other views then you, I think CnC 3 is a awful piece of milk the fanbase trash and there is much evidence to support, I also think Christianity is an evil religion that controls the population through fear, evolution is sound yet the majority of Americans think it's a load of crap. My point is popular opinion doesn't make you right or wrong.

Oh and your kidding yourself if you don't think theirs a large deal of anger in the CnC 3 community, the very forums you cited for your evidence of a big return.

Maybe I'm just crazy though, maybe it's just insane to think a game is garbage for essentially being a decade old remake with no balance to speak of, theirs been an number of tournaments for the game already and do you know what all of the finals consisted only of? Pure NOD tank spam, no RTS games never have perfect balance when released, but nor has a big name RTS game had balance this bad. CoH, Supcom, Starcraft, Warcraft etc may not have had perfect balance on release, but it was never anywhere near this point. Hell in October Supcoms early beta balance wasn't even this bad.

I'm still up for that bet if you want to

Edit:. I just wanted to add to this not only is the CNC 3 forum you cited show a very angry community, actually I don't think I've ever seen such a forum of constant non stop anger in my life, seriously that forum is beyond ridiculous, the in game channels in CNC 3 aren't much better. How you could say it's not an angry community is beyond me, I don't think theirs been a gaming community in history that can touch CNC3 as far as the anger goes.

Okay, How have the performances been online so far for most people? _Pedro_

Improved drastically for me, there have even been some single core users in 3 vs 3 games I've been in :O that was unheard of pre patch.

Few reasons, one Supreme Commander is newer then Company of Heroes, it is arguable though whether this hinders or helps the current online player count, but most likely I'd say this helps as games sell the most at launch and it can take a couple months for the popularity to fade, I don't have Company of Heroes, but if I had to guess I would think it would have been more popular online 3 months after it came out then it is right now.

Hype wise I actually don't think CoH was is a inferior position to Supreme Commander, sure supcom had more hype before it came out, but a good amount of that hype and sales went out the window when people saw the demo ran like crap, thats not even to mention the fact that the demo did a awful job of introducing you to the game, I mean the dam tutorials were videos and they had to be downloaded? Not to mention they weren't available to days after the demo launched.

Quite simply GPG failed massively on the Supcom demo because with no proper tutorial introduction most impatient people  got the impression that it took forever to build an army because they had no clue what a proper build order was as Supcom does build orders far different then other RTS games. So people in the demo ended up making units at the pace of 1 or so a minute when they should have been pushing out 10 or 20 a minute.

You can still see the damage the games poor tutorial setup has done to this day with people citing the games slow speed as the reason they didn't get the game and didn't like it when in fact it's probably the fastest RTS game ever made.

The other big issue was the demo's awful performance, in the latest Supreme Commander patch the performance has skyrocketed to the point I'd say the demo probably runs as well on a FX62 8800GTS 2 GB as a 3200XP 7800GT 1GB ram run on the games latest build. 

Furthermore if you just look at the sale history Supcom and CoH have been at nearly identical places on the top 20 sellers for each month

Supcom 1st month was rank 4 Second month Rank 8 3rd month rank 16

CoH was in the exact same places the 1st and second month, the 3rd month it was actually in 14th. 

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The games pretty awful, I didn't think the single player was any good, but I'm not really interested in the single player aspects of RTS games, the multiplayer is were it is at and as far as the multiplayer goes CNC 3 has some of the worst in RTS history.

The online community has shrunk drastically over the last 6 weeks or so because the game has horrid balance.

If you just watch a replay of a good player using Scorpion spam and then copy him like most the community has now done you will probably never ever loose to another strategy simply because the game is just so poorly balanced.

EA has hyped and claimed they have a super patch coming up that will wash away most the problems, but I wouldn't count on it as if you look at EA's past RTS games to this day they all really do still display poor balance.

 

If you want a good RTS game I suggest you go with either Company of Heroes or Supreme Commander, if the Supcom system requirements have scared you off you really should worry about that now as the new patch that just came out for it heavily optimized the game to the point you will be able to run it fine as long as you have a 3000xp/P4 3GHZ 1 gig of ram and a 6600GT or better.

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SupCom is balanced because the factions are practically identical :P

Not really, maybe 20% of the units are nearly identical faction to faction, but they are far more different then people give them credit for. I think part of the problem is that since the same type of building and units are at the same parts of each of the tech tree people are led to believe the are the same, but they aren't

Let me lay out the differences between each factions Tech 1 tanks to make the differences apparent

Aeon tank- Low Health, slow fire rate, long range, accelerates fast low top speed, hovers over the water, high damage

 Now Contrast that to the Cybran tank

Medium health, rapid fire rate, short range, fast, low damage, can repair other units and help engineers build anything.