I talked to a lot of my Xbox friends, and they don't even care about the PS4, all they really care about is what the new Xbox is gonna do. I know this is a small sample size, but all the "diehard" Xbox customers are going to stay with Xbox anyways. 

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

I'm expecting $600 or $500 at a loss.

2Chalupas

Why? There is no cell, and blu-ray is now an inexpensive tech. 

It's got a damn tablet CPU. Which is smart on Sony's part for this application. GPU sounds solid, but it's not like Sony is paying retail. 

The reason I don't see $299 as reasonable, is because even if Sony somehow managed to keep the manufacturing costs under $300 (which is sort of possible IMO) - they would want to take advantage of that for a change and - you know - actually make a profit on each system sold. I don't see any way this console should actually COST over $500/unit to manufacture. It will probably cost around $400-ish, so maybe they take a slight unit loss and launch it at $399 (and it's possible it could be profitable even at $399). That is my totaly uneducated guess. :)

I think all that GDDR5 RAM is pretty expensive. 

I would call this crazy, but then I remember that Sony somehow put 8 gigs of GDDR5 RAM in there.

I did not believe that was possible. 

And I don't think this price point is possible.

Is Sony going to surprise me again? I hope so. 

PS2 is just a PS1 with more graphics

Do you guys think that only the bigger devs like Guerilla will make 1080P games or do you think most devs will do it too?

crimsonman1245

I'm assuming the norm for PS4 is going to be 1080P. 

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Look at this gif.

See how his leg bent?

Chozofication

Know how it's pre-alpha footage?  :!:

Lol Killzone's animation has always been second to none.

I was actually trying to say that looked good lol

Look at this gif.

See how his leg bent?

this is going to be huge.

Don't even know what to say here, but PSASBR is great.

[QUOTE="Snakemaster9"]

just hit 80

Vaasman

I was actually leveling there from 75-80 lol. Wasn't so hard as long as I had someone with me or 2.

Now I can go out to the 80 only area. I either feel very underpowered or warriors are just very powerful. (I am a Guardian)