[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Dated Hardware:
If SMG and MP3:C can look amazing, I dont care. Developers aren't putting effort. SMG has proven that Wii game can look visually stunning.

Super Mario Galaxy looks good for a Wii game, as well does Metroid Prime 3... but Amazing is stretching it, Haziq. Of course, maybe you don't own a PS3, gaming PC or an Xbox 360 -- hence why your views could be skewed, but there are even Xbox games which have better graphics than what the Wii has -- Xbox games in even HD 720p and 1080i, something in which the Wii can't attain.

Worse online than PS2:
Well, this one is just plain wrong. Yes, online is limited, but its def. better.

But Wii codes still suck. :P

Worse graphics than GC:
Again, wrong. Although it doesn't have a big jump, compare SMS beside SMG and you'll see a big difference.

Maybe. But it still can't beat the original Xbox.

No Third party support:
It has a lot of potentially great exclusives coming out. A lot of new IPs, so no one knows really if they'll be amazing or not. Though a lot have very good ideas behind them like Little King's Story and De Blob

I wouldn't get my hopes up for upcoming Wii games. The Wii is going the route of the gamecube with the massive game droughts.

Targeted at kids and casuals:
Same can be said about PS3/360. Both have appeal to both audiences. Wii has more appeal to those two, which isn't a bad thing. The only people who complain about this are elitists who feel that anything that is mainstream is automatically ruining the industry and bad.

Xbox 360 and PS3's main demographic are not the casual gamer -- there's games which appeal to them; however, games like Halo 3 are aimed at the hardcore. Besides, the casual gamer on the Xbox 360 is different from the casual gamer on the Wii. The Wii's main demographic is the non-gamer/casual. Saying otherwise would be rediculous. That's who they target, with their marketing and their games -- again, saying otherwise is just plain denial.

Maybe you don't understand Haziq, why gamers such as myself feel threatened by the Wii's popularity; it's all simple really. You have two products, game casual and game hardcore -- casual outsells hardcore by 10 times, and because of this... more casual prooducts are made and more attention is focused on the gamer which doesn't take it seriously, the gamers who have been with Nintendo for the long run, are now almost being ignored -- thrown aside to make room for the money making casuals. This is all business Haziq, and when you have a product which is making you billions, you're going to make more of than product.

Wii Music:
People will enjoy it, so why do you care? not everyone has to be hardcore.

Again, this shows what Nintendo is truly caring about now. Who will win in the end? Nintendo. Not the gamers.

Poor Value:
The Wii is a video game console. It is not trying to be a super computer like the PS3 or a multimedia device like the 360. That is nintendos philosophy, deal with it.

Hard to argue with that one, you basically agreed with him. After all, at LAUNCH Nintendo made over $100 off each Wii sold -- you know, when manufacturing costs are at its apex, I can't even imagine how low costs much be now. Nintendo's Wii isn't worth the $250.00 -- Nintendo is selling an overpriced console, but the consumers don't see that --and frankly, they don't care either, sad really.

First Parties wont interest anyone above 12:
Again, so wrong. Many people who play Zelda are old school gamers. Many people who play casual titles like Animal Crossing are older female gamers.

Many children play the said games as well -- Nintendo's games are similiar to cartoons, they're aimed at the younger audience, easy to understand and get into, but adults can watch them too.

Gimmicky Motion Controls:
The only gimmicky motion controlled game I've played is TP(first parties). Others have used it very effectively like MP3:C or Zack and Wiki

Wii's controller is the main selling point -- it's the gimmick.

Stevo_the_gamer

You my friend are a great man.

[QUOTE="Solidyeas"]

I'm sick of sheep boasting about how good the Wii is and how its so Hardcore, lets look at its flaws.

Dated Hardware.

Has worse online then PS2.

Worse graphics then gamecube.

Basically no 3rd party support except for gimmicks like pony adventures.

Targeted at kids and casuals.

Wii music.

Poor value compared to 360 and PS3, all it does it play things that are meant to play games while PS3 and 360 are also multimedia machines and HD.

1st party games that wouldn't interest anyone over 12 (Animal crossing, Zelda)

Games like Zelda which you boast are good are nothing compared to revolutionary games pushing technology forward like Fallout 3.

The gimmicky motion control is unresponsive and the biggest games don't even need it or only use it for the sake of it like SSBB, Twilight Princess and Galaxy.

All games possible Last Gen.

Did I mention Wii Music?.

Now let me guess what your thinking but but w--we are dominating sales. Dont even bring that unto it because minus the grandma's, Soccer moms, Girls and Kids there would be about 3 million.

epic_pets

You probaly never even played a wii game, the controler makes games alot more fun,graphics are better then gamecube,some games have awesome online like mario kart, and animal crossing is for every one.Im 15 and alot of my other friends that are older then me are getting animal crossing

You say that like its some kind of insult and yes I have played a Wii, I owned it for 3 weeks when it first came out. Ok graphics are slightly better then Gamecube, If you think Mario Party has awesome online you need help go play Live. Animal Crossing isn't for everyone, my sister is the only person I know who plays AC, they even have girls playing it in the adverts which shows who they market it too, If I had a son who played Animal Crossing I would take him for professional help.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Your points are ridiculous. Try again. hakanakumono

The points make sense... Please say why you think there ridiculous or your the one that fails...

This is the second time I'm writing this because my laptop decided it would go back a page -_-;;

I'll just correct what was wrong:

1. The wii does have SOME 3rd party support. It is true that it's laughable though.

2. The wii has graphics on par with the xbox, and above PS2.

3. Mario and Zelda are pretty universal when it comes to age groups.

Wait.. So my points are so ridiculous but you agree with them?.

I said basically no and you say some 3rd party support which are basically the same thing so thanks for agreeing.

On par with Xbox = Last gen so you agree thanks.

Ok you disagree with Mario and Zelda

[QUOTE="Solidyeas"]

Has worse online then PS2.

klidron02

No, it doesn't. The PS2's online play wasn't too bad, in fact the only difference between the Xbox 360's and the Wii/PS3's is that $50 you have to spend. What's so bad about it?

Worse graphics then gamecube.

You will find most games do except the high budget ones, maybe not worse but definatly not that much better.

Solidyeas

Uhh, no, it seriously doesn't.

Basically no 3rd party support except for gimmicks like pony adventures.

Solidyeas

Sonic and the Secret Rings, Medal of Honor Heroes 2, No More Heroes, ect.

Sonic and the secret rings fot 7 right?, Medal of honor meh and No more Heroes ok thats decent, but thats still not alot.

Targeted at kids and casuals.

Solidyeas

Explain Super Smash Bros Brawl, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, No More Heroes, Medal of Honor Heroes 2, Call of Duty 3, Call of Duty: World at War, Mad World, the GodFather: Blackhand Edition, Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop, ect.

Smash Bros is kind of casual because you would only play it with your friends at aprty of something and is that all you could list?. Also Nintendo are the makers and they target the console at kids with games like Wii music and Animal Crosiing.

Poor value compared to 360 and PS3, all it does it play things that are meant to play games while PS3 and 360 are also multimedia machines and HD.

Solidyeas

Last time I checked, that was the point of a game system. Plus the PS3 and Xbox360 are more money than the Wii because it has more features. And if the PS3 and Xbox 360 were for HD, why don't they include the HDMI port?

Explain the Mii's, Photo channel, AVI support, Internet Browser, ect.

Yea it is the main point but more features = more value. Mii's are stupid and took 5 seconds to think of and the rest of those features aren't worth mentioning. They do have a HDMI port anyway which proves wii is your only console haha.

1st party games that wouldn't interest anyone over 12 (Animal crossing, Zelda)

Solidyeas

Super Smash Bros Brawl, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, plus the VC titles like Zelda: Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past, Super Mario Bros 3, ect.

Thanks for making a list to prove my point all those games are kid friendly in cartoon like graphics.

Games like Zelda which you boast are good are nothing compared to revolutionary games pushing technology forward like Fallout 3.

Solidyeas

Uhh, it's called the Motion Sensitivity.

What

The gimmicky motion control is unresponsive and the biggest games don't even need it or only use it for the sake of it like SSBB, Twilight Princess and Galaxy.

Solidyeas

Twilight Princess and Galaxy are mostly Motion Control. SSBB, now could you imagine that using Motion Controls? No. The gamecube TP was better without motion control and Galaxy only used motion control for the sake of it wasn't needed.

All games possible Last Gen.

Solidyeas

Graphics wise yes, but nothing else. Was Motion Sensitivity available last gen? Well, yes, but to a much lesser decree to the Wii's controls.

Wii's motion controls are very basic and would defiantly be possible last gen.

Did I mention Wii Music?

Solidyeas

Yes, but at least we don't have Sonic 06.

That is a lame comeback considering your supporting a console filled with absolute trash games much worse then sonic 06 and that game sucked but still had better graphics and technology then all Wii games.

Seriously, think before you post next time.

Cant face the truth?

Your points are ridiculous. Try again. hakanakumono

No actually they are true and right and you sheep are just in too much denial to admit.

I'm sick of sheep boasting about how good the Wii is and how its so Hardcore, lets look at its flaws.

Dated Hardware.

Has worse online then PS2.

Worse graphics then gamecube.

Basically no 3rd party support except for gimmicks like pony adventures.

Targeted at kids and casuals.

Wii music.

Poor value compared to 360 and PS3, all it does it play things that are meant to play games while PS3 and 360 are also multimedia machines and HD.

1st party games that wouldn't interest anyone over 12 (Animal crossing, Zelda)

Games like Zelda which you boast are good are nothing compared to revolutionary games pushing technology forward like Fallout 3.

The gimmicky motion control is unresponsive and the biggest games don't even need it or only use it for the sake of it like SSBB, Twilight Princess and Galaxy.

All games possible Last Gen.

Did I mention Wii Music?.

Now let me guess what your thinking but but w--we are dominating sales. Dont even bring that unto it because minus the grandma's, Soccer moms, Girls and Kids there would be about 3 million.