I believe you have to be online to play Indie titles... certainly the few I downloaded only worked when I was hooked up to the internet.

[QUOTE="Almighty-mints"]When people turn on their gaming systems they're looking for an escape (however brief it may be) from their day to day reality. Making an RPG in a modern day and realistic setting almost completely defeats that purpose. Benficafan_101

Pot... Kettle... how can you claim his comment is flawed when your own argument has more holes than a block of swiss cheese?

Military Shooters for example... are a perfect escape from reality as not everyone who games is a member of the Green Berets, Navy Seals or the SAS.

Sports games... again a perfect escape from reality as not everyone who loads up Madden is the Quarterback for the Steelers.

Yet, walking around a city to get from location to locations is what people do, it's going to work or school, nipping out at lunch to get a bite to eat... it's all what they do in normal daily life... hence his comment that people want to move away from what they do all day and escape somewhere else... or is that too difficult to see?

JRPG wise Lost Odyssey just ahead of Eternal Sonata... providing you can get past the first town where the pace is just soooooooo slooooow.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]At this point you should just buy wiiu.KBFloYd

Then you can guarantee the hardware will be out of date inside 18 months when the next gen consoles are released...

so he should buy a 360 which will be out of date in 1 month?

Then I correct my previous statement... you can guarantee the hardware will be out of date by the time you take it out of the box.

Nintendo are joining the current generation of consoles 6 years late and seem to think that all the casuals who bought a Wii are all going to be gagging to upgrade... which won't happen.

If they can still use it for what the need it for why upgrade? That's why they're called casuals... they couldn't care less if there is a slightly better version... any new hardcore gamers they unearthed with the Wii will have already upgraded to a PS3 or 360 when they discovered the Wii wasn't really all that when it came to games... why would they want to go back to Nintendo?

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[QUOTE="wwervin"] It's interesting to me that you keep saying things like "in this day and age" and "out of date graphics and gameplay." Do you even know when that game was released? It was 2 and a half years ago. It was just fine for its time. Believe it or not games have improved considerably in just under 3 years. The game wasn't perfect, sure, but that's because nobody had really attempted anything like that before. It was a new concept, and I think they made a decent game. Despite its flaws, the game had a very interesting premise and anybody who likes the spy/espionage stuff would enjoy it. It's also pretty interesting being able to make decisions on how you communicate with people, whether you want to be the badass Jack Bauer type who is aggressive with everyone, or you want to play it cool as if you're Bond. I kind of think it's upsetting to me that they didn't make another one. There is so much they could've improved on it. And if TC wants a modern day RPG, Alpha Protocol is it. I really recommend he try it and see it for himself. El_Zo1212o

Which makes everything seem worse... it was out of date when it was released... there were better physics engines in launch games than Alpha Protocol... there were better launch games than Alpha Protocol... and this is from someone who finsihed the game 2 or 3 times to try different approaches.

It's an enjoyable game but you lose a lot of atmosphere when creeping round an office and being foiled by the presence of a cardboard box because the developers couldn't be boethered to implement a better physic engine.

Oh there were plenty of flaws but none of them took such a big knife to the game as your inability to cope with stepping over a sodding box.

I'd sooner they concentrate on not totally f**king up the current gen games they make with on-disk DLC, dodgy cameras and over use of QTE's personally.

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] Having to walk around an environmental object seems like kind of a silly complaint, don't you think? Never mind the ability to raise your character up exactly how you want him and defining the way you take on the missions. Or the other more interesting aspects of the game- the hacking and lock picking minigames, the timed conversation sequences and so on.wwervin

Not really... in this day and age, with the power of the machines available to them, it's just shoddy/lazy development... and gameplay wise you have a secret agent who is handicapped by an ability to move an empty cardboard box on the floor.

Which makes everything seem worse... it was out of date when it was released... there were better physics engines in launch games than Alpha Protocol... there were better launch games than Alpha Protocol... and this is from someone who finsihed the game 2 or 3 times to try different approaches.

It's an enjoyable game but you lose a lot of atmosphere when creeping round an office and being foiled by the presence of a cardboard box because the developers couldn't be boethered to implement a better physic engine.

At this point you should just buy wiiu.Heirren

Then you can guarantee the hardware will be out of date inside 18 months when the next gen consoles are released... there is no excuse to buy a WiiU unless you're a raging Nintendo fan or gadget addict

If you've not owned a 360 before then go for it, pick up all the classic games cheap and have a ball until the next gen arrives.

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]They don't go over well. Look at Alpha Protocol- it was a present day/near future RPG and it got blasted in the media because people didn't like(or in some cases even understand) the concept.El_Zo1212o

That and that the game was kinda crappy... I got sick of having to take the developers set route through offices, to open a desk drawer if you tried to do something outrageous, like stepping over a box on the floor, it refused to allow you... you had to walk all around the desk because there was no physics engine moving objects out the way.

Nice idea, decent concept... out of date graphics and gameplay.

Not really... in this day and age, with the power of the machines available to them, it's just shoddy/lazy development... and gameplay wise you have a secret agent who is handicapped by an ability to move an empty cardboard box on the floor.

As long as you aren't using it for a game that uses d-pad for movement, it's fine.funsohng

These are definately a rarity nowadays... hence the left stick position being opposite the face buttons, the natural place for the left thumb to control movement... if only Sony would see this.