[QUOTE="Nisstyre_56"][QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"] Intelligence and believing in god contradict. Your saying "I'm too stupid to realize what life is about so I believe in the toothfairy..YAY"Why does a hack like you get to decide who is intelligent and who is not? I will refer back to something I said in my original post. By denying G-d, you are only denying your own existence. If one’s intelligence is correspondent with one’s intellectual acumens (insight) and education then such a statement is a function of ordinary thinking, isn’t it? Case closed. NO, by ASKING FOR PROOF, you are furthering your own intellectuality Let me quote the great Gautama Buddha If I may "Believe nothing, O monks, merely because you have been told it . . . or because it is traditional, or because you yourselves have imagined it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings--that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide." The problem is which "proof" are you asking for? How do you identify what one must question? Coincidences are most questionable, and the atheistic argument that life is mere coincidence is what I am currently questioning.
[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]Lol the fact that people think god exists still is us going back in time...Nisstyre_56
No. People believing in nothing is bringing us back in time to an age where humans understood nothing. Matter and energy are proof that G-d exists.
In essence, I am saying that those who believe in nothing understand nothing. Those who believe in something may be right or wrong, but atleast they have some understanding.
Frederick Nietzsche would disagree with you. And Matter and Energy are not proof of anything. Frederick Neitzsche cannot disagree with anyone in this world, because he is dead.
[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"][QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]Lol the fact that people think god exists still is us going back in time...TallicaFan2005
No. People believing in nothing is bringing us back in time to an age where humans understood nothing. Matter and energy are proof that G-d exists. No people who believe in god are dumber than rats. Since you believe in god your words have no meaning... Think about this, if heaven is sooo much better than Earth, why not join the army, die and go to heaven quicker? Religion is pwned. Stop speaking because you are meaningless until you see the truth.I would debate you, but in all honesty I feel sorry for you. I am sorry that you lack the intelligence and understanding to have a coherent discussion without all the name-calling. I am a scientist, and in many ways, scientists are the closest people to G-d. G-d may sound rediculous or unreal to some, but what is more rediculous or unreal is the atheistic belief that life is mere coincidence. Intelligence and believing in god contradict. Your saying "I'm too stupid to realize what life is about so I believe in the toothfairy..YAY"Why do you get to decide who is intelligent and who is not? I will refer back to something I said in my original post.
By denying G-d, you are only denying your own existence. If one’s intelligence is correspondent with one’s intellectual acumens (insight) and education then such a statement is a function of ordinary thinking, isn’t it?
[QUOTE="Thanks-"]So in essence, you're saying nothing. You're saying that I'm not wrong and I'm not right, and you think there is no factual evidence, but you didn't take the time to look for it yourself. What is it that you are saying then?EJ902
Right, let me re-iterate:
I didn't read it THOROUGHLY, but I DID look through it for evidence and sources for your claims. I didn't take every word in, but I read enough to determine whether or not there's any solid evidence.
I should have worded my last post better. What I meant was that you're saying God DOES exist without a doubt, and I was saying you provided no proof for it. What I meant in my last post was "I'm not saying you're wrong in believing God exists, because we don't know for certain, but at the minute you're not factually right since you didn't give evidence".
The overall point I'm making is you can't say other people's beliefs are wrong in our society now, I'm aware of free speech but others also have that right. By saying "God exists, your deity does not", you're pretty much denying them their right to free speech. A summary of this is what JumpingMirrior said:
IT doesn't matter how much you believe in your religion, you, and alot pf people, just have to face the face that peopel will have different beliefs.JumpingMirrior
I understand now. I don't think that G-d wants us to waste our time proving his existence. The fact that matter and energy exist is proof enough. G-d instead wants us to become knowledgable, and learn science. I am a scientist, and I believe scientists are the people closest to G-d.
People may have different beliefs, but someone is right and someone is wrong. Therefore, not all beliefs are equal.
[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]Lol the fact that people think god exists still is us going back in time...TallicaFan2005
No. People believing in nothing is bringing us back in time to an age where humans understood nothing. Matter and energy are proof that G-d exists. No people who believe in god are dumber than rats. Since you believe in god your words have no meaning... Think about this, if heaven is sooo much better than Earth, why not join the army, die and go to heaven quicker? Religion is pwned. Stop speaking because you are meaningless until you see the truth.I would debate you, but in all honesty I feel sorry for you. I am sorry that you lack the intelligence and understanding to have a coherent discussion without all the name-calling. I am a scientist, and in many ways, scientists are the closest people to G-d. G-d may sound rediculous or unreal to some, but what is more rediculous or unreal is the atheistic belief that life is mere coincidence.
Lol the fact that people think god exists still is us going back in time...TallicaFan2005
No. People believing in nothing is bringing us back in time to an age where humans understood nothing. Matter and energy are proof that G-d exists.
In essence, I am saying that those who believe in nothing understand nothing. Those who believe in something may be right or wrong, but atleast they have some understanding.
[QUOTE="Thanks-"][QUOTE="EJ902"]I did not see one single shread of evidence in that post (admittedly I wasn't reading thoroughly), all I saw was your beliefs and opinions. Now I really don't care if you believe in God, that's your right to a belief and it doesn't bother me. But here you are saying that your beliefs are right and everyone else is wrong. There is no completely solid evidence proving nor denying God; evolution CAN be proved, but it can still co-exist with God. Atheists might not be right but the same applies to Catholics, Christians, and every single faith in the world. Your post just claimed that God was real and everyone else was wrong. Yet we live in a day and age where there are many different beliefs and opinions, and the only way to get along with eachother is to respect other people's rights to a belief and not tell them they're wrongEJ902
Contradiction: You didn't see a single thread of evidence, but you didn't read the post. How is that possible? I didn't read it thoroughly, meaning I scanned it. I didn't read through every line taking in every single word, I looked briefly at each line trying to find some solid proof backing your claims up. I'm not saying you're wrong, there is no proof for that either. So in essence, you're saying nothing. You're saying that I'm not wrong and I'm not right, and you think there is no factual evidence, but you didn't take the time to look for it yourself. What is it that you are saying then?
I did not see one single shread of evidence in that post (admittedly I wasn't reading thoroughly), all I saw was your beliefs and opinions. Now I really don't care if you believe in God, that's your right to a belief and it doesn't bother me. But here you are saying that your beliefs are right and everyone else is wrong. There is no completely solid evidence proving nor denying God; evolution CAN be proved, but it can still co-exist with God. Atheists might not be right but the same applies to Catholics, Christians, and every single faith in the world. Your post just claimed that God was real and everyone else was wrong. Yet we live in a day and age where there are many different beliefs and opinions, and the only way to get along with eachother is to respect other people's rights to a belief and not tell them they're wrongEJ902
Contradiction: You didn't see a single thread of evidence, but you didn't read the post. How is that possible?
And by the way, all opinions are not equal. There is a right, and there is a wrong.
G-d is the only being that is able to bend the laws of science and create matter where there was once none. He created energy where there was once none. He created physical space where there was once none. Does this answer your question?
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