I slept in a McDonalds bathroom once. . ., but it really wasn't that bad of an experience.

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[QUOTE="DEVILinIRON"] Er. What would have made more sense in your opinion regarding this dialogue? What more do you want? I just don't get your stance on this at all. The dialogue is minimal to illustrate the loss of hope in the main character. The main character practically has no voice because of all the loss he has experienced. Instead most of the dialogue is usually initiated by the son. The son has experienced less tragedy and is naive. So you would have preferred a more thoughtful main character, is that it? But then that would have changed the entire tone of the story, don't you think? Sometimes there are no words to express how one is feeling. One just is. That was the main character in my eyes. Also I think McCarthy's style IS the same. It's just a a little bit more minimalist in this book compared to the others.DEVILinIRON

My stance isn't all that complicated. Simply put, there isn't much to the dialog, which is quite evident in the few lines I provided, and the writing lacks depth, which is also portrayed in the dialog. I have no problem with minimalist writing, but I just don't think he did a very good job with it. Many lines of writing are simply amateurish, in that diction and syntax are what I would expect from an unknown, not a successful, published author. Also, I've heard much about the uniqueness of his writing in the Road, such that it is very different compared to his style in his other books. I haven't read his other books, but that's what I've heard.

Yeah, just as it must have been unrealistic for Winston Smith to have so many contemplative thoughts while at the same time being under constant fear of the thought police, being malnourished, and living under a surveillance state. The dialog is utter trash as far as I'm concerned, and you're just angry because I disagree with your opinion.

Just to be clear here..and to make sure i'm understanding this correctly..

Imperialism is basically when one conquers other often times weaker cultures/countries and make said conquered country/culture a part of the victor's country?

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Yeah, pretty much.

Why am I not surprised that a topic which requires thought has only two posts in it, while all the retarded topics on the front page have about 200 posts? Gamespot FTW!

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[QUOTE="DEVILinIRON"]To suggest that McCarthy's writing is poorly thought out strikes me as a bit uncouth. After all, this is the same author who wrote No Country For Old Men and All The Pretty Horses. In The Road, the time and place in which he writes about is practically barren. It's only fitting that the style in which he writes about such a time and place should pursue a minimalist perspective.

DEVILinIRON

McCarthy's writing in the Road is very poor as far as I'm concerned, but I can't say the same for the rest of his works, since I haven't read any of them yet. However, the style of writing in the Road isn't the same style employed in his other books either. Furthermore, I think his particular use of minimalism lacks thought, and it seems as though he is just writing whatever comes to mind. It's my suspicion that his prestige as a writer over-shadowed this book's lack of quality writing because I don't think any other writer would have been able to get a book like this published.

I mean just look at these lines on page 182

"Do you think there are ships out there"?

"I don't think so"

"They wouldn't be able to see very far"

"No. They wouldn't."

I can see how the author may want to create a sense of emptiness in the writing to reflect the emptiness of the world, but this just lacks character and voice. It lacks thought.

My stance isn't all that complicated. Simply put, there isn't much to the dialog, which is quite evident in the few lines I provided, and the writing lacks depth, which is also portrayed in the dialog. I have no problem with minimalist writing, but I just don't think he did a very good job with it. Many lines of writing are simply amateurish, in that diction and syntax are what I would expect from an unknown, not a successful, published author. Also, I've heard much about the uniqueness of his writing in the Road, such that it is very different compared to his style in his other books. I haven't read his other books, but that's what I've heard.

Before I start, I should like to mention that I'm not in support of imperialism or policies of aggression. However, as of late, I've been pondering over the philosophies of the empires of the past, most notably the Roman and British Empires. "Make the world England", that was the British motto up until the end of WW1, "nullus terram", being it's policy of "let there be no land unclaimed or uncultivated." I must admit that I find great comfort from the idea of inhabiting a country that is strongest and that controls vast swathes of territory across the world, thus lessening the amount of established countries coming to power and becoming a danger or even a competitive player in the world at large. This last bit is important, for I think this is where imperialism might be a desirable policy, although it greatly conflicts with my philosophies of isolationism and non-aggression. There should be no doubt that competitive countries demand more from the rest of the world as their power increases, thus weakening other countries in the process or stultifying their power.

My question is simply this: what are your thoughts on pro-imperialism, and provide pros and cons for this policy.

[QUOTE="Kle0"]Going to the gym is the best thing a person can do.. It's one of the only activities in life that has no drawbacks at all.. I go to the gym every daykamikaze_pigmy

Everything has a risk to it, but you have to ask yourself whether sitting in front of a computer screen for three hours is worth more to you than hitting the gym for three hours to work on that six pack.

Everyday for about 2 to 3 hours.

It's a highly subjective term really.deepdreamer256

Which is to say what exactly, that you simply don't have an opinion to put forth? I'm sorry to be so harsh, but I have to wonder why so many call things un-objective or subjective in place of an actual argument or opinion.

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[QUOTE="OBLOK"]I've read half way and couldn't bare it anymore and watched the film to know the rest of the story, the book and the movie is damn boring imo.

Gonna give World war Z a try, and Metro 2033 looks interesting too.

DEVILinIRON

I didn't mind the story at all. My main gripe with the book was the writing end of it. To be quite honest, it's as though he simply wrote whatever came to mind, paying no attention at all to grammar or editing, and saw if he could publish it as is. If he weren't a published author, I doubt that this book would have ever saw the light of day. I know many say that the strong part of the book is it's simplistic prose, but the writing simply lacks thought. The dialog between the Father and Son is too minimal and thin.

McCarthy's writing in the Road is very poor as far as I'm concerned, but I can't say the same for the rest of his works, since I haven't read any of them yet. However, the style of writing in the Road isn't the same style employed in his other books either. Furthermore, I think his particular use of minimalism lacks thought, and it seems as though he is just writing whatever comes to mind. It's my suspicion that his prestige as a writer over-shadowed this book's lack of quality writing because I don't think any other writer would have been able to get a book like this published.

I mean just look at these lines on page 182

"Do you think there are ships out there"?

"I don't think so"

"They wouldn't be able to see very far"

"No. They wouldn't."

I can see how the author may want to create a sense of emptiness in the writing to reflect the emptiness of the world, but this just lacks character and voice. It lacks thought.