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#1 TheMISCMan48
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DBZ sucked whenit got to the Buu saga and made vegeta an epic fail, he went from being the biggest baddass to a whiny emo and from then on it was downhill when he kept coming second best too Goku. Goku and Vegetas rivarly was one of if not the best thing about the show they should have made one last epic saga of them two smacking the reefa out of each other and ended it. Then again i am a big fan of vegeta so this whole rant might be abit bias...:|

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Ive always liked Goku better :P

But I liked the fact that at the end of GT Vegeta humbles himself and cares about goku and the rest of the world. At the final battle with Buu, Vegeta was the main one worrying about the "innocent people". They do that with all shows really. At the end, all major character flaws are mended.

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"][QUOTE="StopThePresses"] What I mean is that the plot (from what bits and pieces I have picked up of it) is so utterly ludicrous and goofy anyway that whether it is consistent or not hardly even matters, as that is the least of the problems with it.

Pretty much anything that is inconsistent, weird or "paranormal" sounding about the series is summed up by nanomachines. Nothing really inconsistent really. Vamp being able to regenerate himself is due to nanomachines, etc.

yep. Although I still look back at MGS2 and wonder how much of it (if any) was just a giant drug induced dream of Raiden's. I don't think any of it was, but it's hard to tell. Man gotta play Peace Walker, but that means getting my psp fixed.

I never understood why people were confused with this. I was 12 when I played MGS2, it wasnt really that confusing. Everything that happened in the actual game was real, and really happened. The only think that was fake was his memories. The Colonel and Rose were not real people communicating with him but AI computers. he had never actually met them in person. They PUT fake memories inside Raiden's head of both the Colonel and Rose (that rose was his girlfriend, had a history together and they had sex and stuff) when in reality, rose doesnt exist. Every memory he has of rose (which spans several years, they pretty much created an entire relationship) was placed inside his mind using nanomachines. The rose that you see at the end of MGS2 (and in MGS4) was a person that they gave cosmetic surgery to look like the "rose" that raiden knew. Thats one hell of a plot twist when you think about it.
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#3 TheMISCMan48
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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"] I am a metal gear fan and would gladly discuss plot holes with anyone willing to discuss them lol. (however I dont know them).

actually yeah they covered most (all?) of them in MGS4.

What I mean is that the plot (from what bits and pieces I have picked up of it) is so utterly ludicrous and goofy anyway that whether it is consistent or not hardly even matters, as that is the least of the problems with it.

Pretty much anything that is inconsistent, weird or "paranormal" sounding about the series is summed up by nanomachines. Nothing really inconsistent really. Vamp being able to regenerate himself is due to nanomachines, etc.
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I mean, pointing out a plot hole in DBZ is like pointing out a plot hole in Metal Gear Solid or something. :lol:StopThePresses
I am a metal gear fan and would gladly discuss plot holes with anyone willing to discuss them lol. (however I dont know them).
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[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"] ...and what in the world makes you think I ever watched Naruto or Pokemon, or anime at all, for that matter? :lol:

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Nothing, as I didnt really care tbh. Im just sorry that your so insecure that you care about other peoples opinions, let alone dictate your OWN opinions around them (especially when nobody really cares what you do) :lol:. Pretty beta of you IMO. Most of this stuff is things I remember from age 10-12, and I can assure you DBZ hasnt had any effect on my college social or work , or love life

Dont worry you can watch DBZ. If the guys in your middle school gym class make fun of you in the locker room, i'll...uh......beat them up for you i guess ;)

Way to project your OWN insecurities onto others there, buddy. ;)

That is EXACTLY what StopThePresses did in this thread. Who the hell uses the word "nerd" anyways?
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[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"] ...and what in the world makes you think I ever watched Naruto or Pokemon, or anime at all, for that matter? :lol:

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Nothing, as I didnt really care tbh. Im just sorry that your so insecure that you care about other peoples opinions, let alone dictate your OWN opinions around them (especially when nobody really cares what you do) :lol:. Pretty beta of you IMO. Most of this stuff is things I remember from age 10-12, and I can assure you DBZ hasnt had any effect on my college social or work , or love life

Dont worry you can watch DBZ. If the guys in your middle school gym class make fun of you in the locker room, i'll...uh......beat them up for you i guess ;)

Ah, yes, I comment about a show that I thought was hilariously bad, and you get all p.o.'d or whatever you are about it, and I'm the one who is being insecure. Oh, okay. Sorry, I'll pretend to like everything from now on. I wouldn't want anyone to think I was being "insecure" or something for having negative opinions about things.

lol all I said was that there were worse shows and added a ":roll:" at the end. I hardly consider my one sentence post "being p.o.'d.". Lol im perfectly calm, and like I said , I dont really care that much to be honest. And you didnt simply "have a negative opinion about something", you called it "nerdy" implying that the people who watched it were "nerds". I just thought it was funny that you care enough about other people's actions to even waste your mental energy judging them. The fact that you are overly conscious about whats "nerdy" and what isnt "nerdy" is indicative of your own personal insecurities.
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I actually thought it became more interesting after the friza saga ended.

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I didnt really like the Cell saga to be honest. I liked the Freiza saga, but I liked the Kid Buu saga the best. Especially near the end right before they kill Buu, Vegeta shows humility, and compassion for goku and the world, and even acknowleges goku as "the best". It was like they became best friends in those episodes.
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[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

Lol Dragonball Z was prolly the most alpha cartoon there was. Crap like Naruto and pokemon (and pretty much every other anime that isnt DBZ) are 1000 times worse :roll:

StopThePresses

...and what in the world makes you think I ever watched Naruto or Pokemon, or anime at all, for that matter? :lol:

Nothing, as I didnt really care tbh. Im just sorry that your so insecure that you care about other peoples opinions, let alone dictate your OWN opinions around them (especially when nobody really cares what you do) :lol:. Pretty beta of you IMO. Most of this stuff is things I remember from age 10-12, and I can assure you DBZ hasnt had any effect on my college social or work , or love life

Dont worry you can watch DBZ. If the guys in your middle school gym class make fun of you in the locker room, i'll...uh......beat them up for you i guess ;)

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All i have to say, is that IF trunks never went and warned about the Androids, Maybe that somehow triggered babidi to come awaken Buu. And the future timeline, Everyone stopped training and fighting after they finished namek, Leaving them weak and rusty when it comes to fighting. Trunks coming back only saved them because He got them together to go " okay, major threat coming, You HAVE to get ready for it or EVERYONE DIES. Thats the way i look at it.Lost-Memory
Babidi's life mission was built around resurecting Buu. It was everything he based his life around, fulfiling his fathers legacy. Babidi is completely unaffiliated with ANYTHING that happens in that whole galaxy, so trunks comming back from the future would have had no effect. he would have still been hell bent on resurecting Buu. There is pretty much nothing in the whole timeline that could have caused a big enough butterfly effect to affect Babidi's plans. The androids didnt care about destroying the planet or anything, they just ran around tormenting people for fun. Cell would be the only one who would destroy the planet or something, but remember, cell in the future timeline doesnt show up until trunks is like 19 (he had already went back in time, warned the others, and THEN destroyed the androids in his own timeline). Remember, Cell is actually from the future. He killed trunks and took his time machine because he needed to go to a time when the androids were still alive (trunks had finally killed them in HIS world). This all happens WELL AFTER Buu would have shown up.
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So many beta males who are so insecure with themselves that they dictate their actions around how others will percieve them. We don't care about your opinion and if you don't like the TV series. Control yourself and DON'T click on a topic you don't want to put any positive material in. OKay thanks. :)Jamiemydearx3
Fixed. Oh noes, people R gunna make fun of me!!! What the hell is this middle school? I just started college this week and I can tell you I know a very large number of people who watched dragonball Z, or would rewatch it if they could.