Information Time!

There is a MASSIVE difference in HDMI cables. Lets start with this, there are two types of interference that can affect your cables. First is Magnetic interference, this is cause by the proximity of the cable to wall outlets, and other power sources, especially powerbars that your PS3 is likely plugged into. Magnetic interference is reduced by insulating the cable with copper weave. If the cable feels really flexible, and bends easy, and is light, thats an indication that theres not much copper weave in it. This is the most important part of the insulation.

The second for of interference is radio interference. This is from the 50,000 watt radio tower down the street. (Pick your poison really, can come from anywhere) Radio interference is reduced by aluminum foil wrapped on the cable. This is the lesser of the two evils, depending on your proximity to said radio tower or whatever it is. However, radio interference is often more visible as it affects the video portion of the data.

So, there is clearly a difference between cheap and expensive cables.

Heres a link for a VERY expensive cable. http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX10421%28ME%29.aspx

Here is a link for a less expensive version that still has a decent amount of shielding.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX23220%28ME%29.aspx

Both are good, but one is better. Its largely related to the quality of your system too. If you plug a $150 cable into a "HDTV" from walmart, thats a waste. If you plug a $150 cable into a brand new Panasonic 58" 1080p plasma... you'll get the best graphics you can possibly get from your playstation. TY

Edit: it basically comes down to what your plugging it into. If your TV costs over $3000... PLEASE, PLEASE get good cables, without them, you ARE missing out, trust me. If your rocking a $650 viewsonic, go ahead and buy those $5 cables.. Also, dont forget that if you have a nice system hooked up to the TV, the plugins go PS3->Speaker System->TV. This is because most new stereo systems have HDMI passthrough, which means the video signal doesnt get distorted at all. TV->Stereo means that theres no passthrough, and your audio can be distorted.

bah, nitpick nitpick, i was quoting the buddy who was talking about the 90,000, i had already read your post about the math.

and yes, the year head start does matter when talking about overall sales figures. 6 million unit lead is huge. everyone knows that 360 is a more popular console for several reasons. but to say that PS3 is not catching up is folly..

Look closer than that though. This is a debate about Wii vs PS3 sales. Clearly this holiday season is leaning towards Wii and PS3 so far. Microsoft not releasing their numbers is circumstantial evidence of this. In a market largely based on gifting and holiday sales, its important that a system does well during this time.

There is another reason for concern here. If PS3 starts to outsell the 360 on a more constant basis, we may see a pricedrop on the 360, which will mean a pricedrop for PS3 close behind, while this is good for the consumer, it is bad for the industry. Higher prices means higher profits means higher game budgets means higher game quality.

Currently, the ideal market situation for the 3 consoles would be with the Wii leading by a health margin (not a massive one), with the PS3 and 360 battling it out for 2-3. If the 360 begins to outsell the PS3, or vise versa, the market comes away the worse for wear...

pst... im not a zealot.. i owned a 360 before i owned a ps3, im just trying to form an unbiased debate on whether the 360 will ever be able to handle the same amount of data a ps3 can. right now it cant, but in the future that may change, im trying to find out what people think the next innovation will be.

ps4 will be out when ps3 celebrate it's sixth birthday and 360 is here to stay for a while

kyacat

if thats the case, then MS is about to get annihilated... if PS4 releases before a new xbox, they dont stand a chance..

I just found an article pertaining to exactly this http://www.storagesearch.com/bitmicro-art3.html it says that the access time for HDD is 5000-10000 micro seconds, compared to 35-100 microseconds for SSD thats about 100 times faster. It also states that the longevity of SSD is an advantage, because there are no moving parts, there is less wear and tear. HDD can be nightmares when they crash... It also says that SSD run A LOT cooler, so maybe this would be a viable solution for MS, seeing as everywhere i go they sell external cooling fans for 360... And as far as price goes, im not really too concerned with that because its computer technology, check back in a few months and the price will have dropped to a more reasonable amount.

Edit: Turns out that was an older article, now theyre saying SSD is 300-500 times faster than HDD.

What about digital download? Alot of ps3 games have already gone that route. Case in point: GT5 prologue, Ratchet and Clanks, Uncharted..

Then the question of HDD vs SSD comes in.

2013 you say for the next MS console? That leaves 3 years for PS3 to not only maximize BR's potential, but upgrade their own system as well. We are talking about this system, not the system they'll make in a few years. You really think Sony will make the same mistake again and launch a PS4 a year after Xbox(w/etheycallit)? They'll almost assuredly release simultainiously or close together. But thats for another day, this is about the here and now. How long will it take for BR to surpass anything a DVD can provide?

Edit: Re: Blu Ray Read Speeds/Installs

read plox!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=23916169&user=skektek

RE: BR read speeds, i found a blog entry on gamespot here. check it out.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=23916169&user=skektek

Edit: @ Wayne_kar, Me and almost all my friends run Onkyo 7.1 channel systems. What other way to best enjoy the glory of supreme audio?! :P

You really think they would release a new console already? They run the risk of deflating their market! If I hand you two apples. And you start eating one, then I hand you another apple, what will happen? Either you will drop a perfectly good apple in favor of the new one, or you will let the new apple fall, because you already have a perfectly good apple in your hand.

Besides, I see no advantage they can put into a new system that PS3 doesnt already have. Perhaps a new processor. They would HAVE to go bluray, and they would HAVE to go laptop HDD or SSD. And now your left with basically a PS3 in an Xbox casing.

And will they revive Halo? Seriously? Halo 4? already? or some other creative spinoff of it? Halo HBDSD? who knows!

Edit: No I already know the PS3 is a more advanced system, I'm wondering what MS is planning on doing about it..