You all can slap and spank the Xbox ones name all you want. I saw the PS4 This weekend in Berlin, i was NOT impressed.

Dead on the second day they had it - Lets just put it this way. If Xbox 360 had issues and you liked it. Maybe PS4 IS something for you!

@tormentos said:

@always_explicit said:

@tormentos: Yeah but the Xbox is better.

Resident evil developer said there is no difference. This is INDISPUTABLE FACT TORMENTOS.

Yes indisputable until you see COD 720p on xbox one and 1080p on PS..hahaha

Let me tell you about my first experience with the Playstation 4 real quick.

This weekend, we went to Berlin on a weekend holiday.

In Berlin they have this huge Electronic supermarket in the middle of town, it´s called Saturn.

Saturn was one of the first stores in DE to have the Playstation 4 on display and available for play, so we went there one of the afternoons.

Unfortunately i could not try playing on the PS4 because it had gone BOOM on them after only two days, done, finished, dead.

I could however try holding the controllers and have a nice look at it, and take this nice picture.

I don't know about you,but i am not paying 400€ for a paper weight, no matter how sexy it may look.

We are spending prolonged weekend in Berlin. And on this occasion we went into the five or six story saturn shop down town in the hopes of catching a glimpse of the new PS4 they have on Display there.

However an Expedient told us it had broken down on them and was now only showing gameplay movies until fixed. Arrgh i tought but we went over to the consolestand to check it out anyway. Hey, atleast it was supposed to be showing some PS4 gameplay.

However once we found it we were told they just had to pull the plug on it, as it went totally dead on them and they were now waiting for sony support to fix it... they apparently only had it running for two days before it died on them My First thought was

... Thank fuc* I ordered the xbox.

UPDATE: Since ths board forum mods dont seem to care for any real life "hands on" experience with the next gen consoles this thread has been locked.?????

However I did take a picture with my phone showing the console dead in the water, here it is:

http://i41.tinypic.com/29m0uw1.jpg

@tormentos: I will admit i dident see it coming, Nvidia lending physx tools to develop on Amd hardware, but it does seem you are right. However i am still having a hard time believeing that any Nvidida creations will go uncritically to AMD. Created on open source or not.

You don't honestly believe Nvidia will give any of their opengl extensions to Amd, their number one competition on the market do you? I think not.

Besides Amd has already made Mantle why would they try to buy Nvidia tech, to improve ps4 graphics? Just makes no sense to me.

On a side note in a year when the oculus rift vr set is coming out its going to be a whole other dimention playing with kinect.

Ps. Sorry for the delayed post time, since I am a forum noob am apparently not able to post more then five times a day. - Lame. :)

1. It was an Nvidia extention to opengl, not Radeon.

2.I was never not allowed in :-)

@tormentos said:

@TitanExtremer said:

I Have been an intense gamer for over twenty years, building my own rigs since i was ten. If there is one valuable lesson i have learned from these many years of being obsessive about graphics and hardware specs it is that software matters. Often software even matters more then the hardware itself.

Looking past the fact that there is nothing, absolutely no facts about what GPU the xbox one is using and that rumors and speculations circulate that Playstation 4 has got the better hardware then it, Lets for a moment take a look at the software.

Xbox one uses DirectX 11.2 (Microsoft created Direct X FYI.)

Playstation 4 uses their own opengl version of "Direct X"

Look it up, opengl lost the API wars for a very good reason.

Ask yourself this, if you have a huge gaming rig running on windows 97. How much game are you really going to get?

Same applies with the Playstation, it may or may not have the better hardware but if the software is not there to support it, it wouldn't really matter at all.

These performance claims are the same story for every generation, check out this article: http://reviews.cnet.com/1990-10109_7-6224258-1.html

My coins are on Xbox one.

Not only do you get next gen, you get all the other features to boot.

So Mantle can have 9X draw calls than Direct3D,and openGL actually has similar improvements..

OpenGL is better.

By the way there is a sudden surge in old account that never posted i wonder..mmm

Neither consoles will be using the brand new Mantle tech.

How is OpenGL better, please do enlighten me.

As for the age of my account and my number of posts, i must say i often don´t waste time going into these boards. But i find this topic rather interesting and so here i am debating. #EndofConspiracyTheory.

PS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vk__hyOM2M

Playstation has the inferior software. This is particularly true in respects to their API.

You try running your AAA Game on windows 97, see how that works out for ya.

I have been an intense gamer for over twenty years, building my own rigs since i was ten. If there is one valuable lesson i have learned from these many years of being obsessive about graphics and hardware specs it is that software matters. Often software even matters more then the hardware itself.

Looking past the fact that there is nothing, absolutely no facts about what GPU the xbox one is using and that rumors and speculations circulate that Playstation 4 has got the better hardware then it, Lets for a moment take a look at the software.

Xbox one uses DirectX 11.2 (Microsoft created Direct X FYI.)

Playstation 4 uses their own opengl version of "Direct X"

Look it up, opengl lost the API wars for a very good reason.

Ask yourself this, if you have a huge gaming rig running on windows 97. How much game are you really going to get?

Same applies with the Playstation, it may or may not have the better hardware but if the software is not there to support it, it wouldn't really matter at all.

These performance claims are the same story for every generation, check out this article: http://reviews.cnet.com/1990-10109_7-6224258-1.html

My coins are on Xbox one.

Not only do you get next gen, you get all the other features to boot.