The flip and grind system in this game are nearly perfect and the realism thing makes it much more satisfying to play than Tony Hawks, and I definatly prefer it to Tony Hawks. The thing that bugged me thought was it was too fiddly to do grabs.

I mean pulling a method 360 in Tony Hawks was A, B, B, Left stick, release

but in Skate its Down right stick, Up right stick, right/left trigger, right on right stick, left/right on left stick, release. This just seemed like a lot to do for the easist tricks in the skating.

I was wondering if anyone else felt like this.

"sigh"

Another person who got succumbed by a gimmick .

Just One more question:

The Civilization I had was Civ 2:Test of time

Now i looked about and theres diffrent box art, one saying Civiliztion 2 test of time with an hourglass on the cover and one just saying Civiliztion 2 with the statue of liberty on it.

Are they exactly the same?

Ive had a look and I think Civ 2,

thanks

I was wondering why there were'nt loads of forums on this, because its probably the best demo on the marketplace...

then I found out only UK get it, WHICH OWNS!!!

Now all we need is the movie martketplace :(

To go into a bit more detail:

- You had a slider where you balanced taxes and peoples mood

- There was a option to enable cheat mode where you could speed up discoveries and things

- If you stopped the game it would come up witth a rating like, Luke Skywalker the Weak, or something.

- It played online

- When you started you could choose what kind of citys you could make (Roman, Aztec...) no matter who you were.

I know its kinda vague but its been a few years.

Im not really a PC gamer but lately I found my self playing PC games more.

The thing is, I used to have a game a couple of years ago that I really liked, but Ive lost it, and I cant remember the name of the game.

I thought it was Civilization 3 or 2 but I played a demo of each and it wasnt it, In "the-game-whose-name-I-cant-remember" it played pretty much the same as civilization but you could have diffrent worlds (Fantasy, as in elves and things, or Space age, where you started on the moon) and the HUDs diffrent on Civ 3.

Any help would be appretiated.