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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Yeh, it was foolish of him to expect us not to strive for answers. ... :| Also, don't assume what you think would happen in hypothetical scenarios is correct.Danm_999

I don't think you could be more wrong if you even tried, at least according to Christianity. Also, don't assume that I am actually attempting to prove the existence of God.

Except that the strawman fallacy completely depends on something that can be proven or disproven, or tangible, at least.

Ok, here's what I'll take as proof. Please show me something in nature that is irreducibly complex. Something whose psrts have no function, except when they are all working together. Something that must have a designer. That would be good proof for God.

BuryMe

A common cell?

It would require more then something that could easily be explained in a much more rational way to get people to believe in an incredibly illogical being?! Imagine that... Not to mention the fact that their are hundred upon hundred of possible gods, even if you got everyone to believe in a deity, who is to say it would be the correct one/ones? Darth-Caedus

I saw Zeus at Starbucks yesterday. He's not looking good.

[QUOTE="Turtlecream"]

Perhaps God thought that creating the Sun and the Universe would be proof enough for his existence, but perhaps he actually isn't perfect and never thought that humans would attempt explain them through Science.

super_mario_128

I don't think you could be more wrong if you even tried, at least according to Christianity. Also, don't assume that I am actually attempting to prove the existence of God.

gratz OT on going on my list of people who's posts i wont read anymore because i know it wont matter.nimatoad2000

That there is the definition of the word, "Judgmental."

May God should do those things then?

Overrated_Hero

Yes, maybe he should.

Or you know, God could, if he hypothetically existed, announce his presence to everybody. That way there wouldn't be an unfair labelling of the minority.super_mario_128

That would be a hoax, or aliens, or people believing they were dreaming, or being brainwashed, or some strange form of propaganda. Also, what language would God speak in, to speak to everyone on the planet? Every language simultaneously?

Perhaps God thought that creating the Sun and the Universe would be proof enough for his existence, but perhaps he actually isn't perfect and never thought that humans would attempt explain them through Science.

It is common knowledge that atheists do not believe in God because there is a lack of empirical evidence. What is interesting is that it is nearly impossible to dictate the kind of evidence that would need to be discovered.

Assuming that God was absolutely real and exceptionally present, it may still be literally impossible to prove it to an atheist regardless.

• If all diseases were suddenly abolished, atheists would say that humans somehow developed natural immunities.
• If the word, "God" was carved into the Moon, atheists would claim it as an enormous hoax.
• If beautiful figures appeared for the entire world to see, atheists would label them as aliens from another universe.
• If God spoke directly to a group of people, atheists would label those people as crazy or schizophrenic.
• If every dead human was suddenly resurrected, atheists would consider them zombies and grab their chainsaws and shotguns.

Atheists claim that a God is improbable but demand believing in Him only through the impossible. Excluding the fact that such an attitude is completely hypocritical, such logic would dictate that it takes far more faith to believe in atheism than anything else anyway.

God him/or herself to speak to me (I don't truly have to see God, but it would help). When I was lucid (not asleep), and give some account of my life (proving he's/she's been watching). Then, and only then will I believe in God.btaylor2404

That is interesting.

Assuming God did speak to you, your primary issue would be determining whether it was actually God or just you being insane. Another issue would be attempting to convince other people that God spoke to you, because their first inclination would be that you have mental issues instead.

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Then perhaps you can post your evidneces for God here regardless if you think they will be whisked away. However hopefully it's not of the type "Well look at the universe. Someone MUST HAVE created it."

tim22000

I believe that, according to Christianity anyway, the idea of time is a human feature and does not exist in the spiritual world, meaning that God was never created because he simply always was.