It doesn't really matter seeing as how both consoles are so close in sales that arguing over a such small difference is ridiculous. Do people really need to feel validated on there purchase through what is the most popular console in order to be happy with it?

seriously?

XileLord

Well I don't since the only console I own alongside my PC is the WII.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Well good luck finding those numbers....Ravensmash

Just because their not availble doesn't change the fact that a unit is only sold when a consumer buys it.

just because MS shipped 44.6m units (or whatever the number) is doesn't mean they are all sold so it's more then likely the PS3 is 1m in the lead now since it has been outselling the 360 WW for quite some time now. That's all i'm saying. I'm not saying it is 2nd place just that is plausible if you take in account the fact of the PS3 outselling the 360 WW for some years now.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It could very well be true, but it seems rather unlikely in the limited timeframe since the release of their official shipped numbers. Obviously demand has increased for the PS3 since 2007 though.

Shipped is sold, just not through to the consumer end, thus their shipped numbers =/= total userbase.

Ravensmash

Well I'm more interested in how many units consumers like us bought then how many MS/SONY/Nintendo shipped. Shipped may be sold for the big 3 but it's not a sold unit in my eyes until it's actually bought through retail or online. So shipped numbers are nothing to go by unless you have some stock in either of the companies.

Just because their not availble doesn't change the fact that a unit is only sold when a consumer buys it.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Well like the lems always say shipped doesn't equal sold so that the PS3 outsold the 360 and is in 2nd place now could very well be true.

lundy86_4

It could very well be true, but it seems rather unlikely in the limited timeframe since the release of their official shipped numbers. Obviously demand has increased for the PS3 since 2007 though.

Shipped is sold, just not through to the consumer end, thus their shipped numbers =/= total userbase.

Well I'm more interested in how many units consumers like us bought then how many MS/SONY/Nintendo shipped. Shipped may be sold for the big 3 but it's not a sold unit in my eyes until it's actually bought through retail or online. So shipped numbers are nothing to go by unless you have some stock in either of the companies.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

ah so the units MS ships to retailers are immediately sold?

lundy86_4

What he means is that retailers pay for their shipment of consoles from MS/Sony/Nintendo. Sold to consumers is difficult to track, and they have no need to report those numbers.

Well like the lems always say shipped doesn't equal sold so that the PS3 outsold the 360 and is in 2nd place now could very well be true.

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[QUOTE="mayceV"]yeah... MS stated 44.6 so no. nice try keep hoping maybe kinect won't sell consoles.navyguy21

44.6 shipped so not 44.6m units sold

ah so the units MS ships to retailers are immediately sold?

Funny how mostly PC gamers call it "meh"... Its like they cannot appreciate a 5 year old systems graphics even now which is definitely a good looking game.. Elitism FTL.JohnF111

DOOM 3 (PC version) is from 2004 and looks alot better then Killzone 3 so no those kz3 screens are not impressive

yeah... MS stated 44.6 so no. nice try keep hoping maybe kinect won't sell consoles.mayceV

44.6 shipped so not 44.6m units sold

Quick question... do you have physX turned on in Mafia 2?

Mystic-G

I hope not since Physx eats your FPS if you have a single card.