[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

To the law, it is. But in moral terms if a boss doesn't pay his worker he's an exploiter and a disgraceful human being, as he got the work done, the hours were spent by the worker, and he doesn't want to pay. Same applies to piracy of games in my opinion. Although in my fair opinion the fact all games price averages to be the same is a nonsense, considering the differences in budgets and quality. The industry needs a price overhaul in my opinion. Many games should never be above 30€ due to the budget/quality of the final product. They plummet in price shortly after, so why not starting from there being a better choice for the one short of cash?

Lost planet 2, i got it for 21€ new two weeks after launch. Something's wrong with the industry for sure,but piracy doesn't help fighting any cause, it's just the case of the boss and the exploited worker, except this time the worker doesn't have any kind of syndicate to appeal and get his money.

zero_snake99

And in court the law applies not your moral opinions on something.

Well it's more clear you don't becasue facts>>>opinion in court.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

Going by that logic, if your boss doesn't pay you, he didn't steal anything from you, except intangible hours of work. So it's all good, it was just a contract infringement so it's not the same as stealing. All good, no losses there.

blitzcloud

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

To the law, it is. But in moral terms if a boss doesn't pay his worker he's an exploiter and a disgraceful human being, as he got the work done, the hours were spent by the worker, and he doesn't want to pay. Same applies to piracy of games in my opinion. Although in my fair opinion the fact all games price averages to be the same is a nonsense, considering the differences in budgets and quality. The industry needs a price overhaul in my opinion. Many games should never be above 30€ due to the budget/quality of the final product. They plummet in price shortly after, so why not starting from there being a better choice for the one short of cash?

Lost planet 2, i got it for 21€ new two weeks after launch. Something's wrong with the industry for sure,but piracy doesn't help fighting any cause, it's just the case of the boss and the exploited worker, except this time the worker doesn't have any kind of syndicate to appeal and get his money.

And in court the law applies not your moral opinions on something.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]As for the bolded part an illegaly downloaded game doesn't equal a sale.FreshDimSum

No you are still more wrong then anyone else in this thread. It''s not stealing it's copyright infrigment no matter how you try to spin it.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="mfp16"] There isn't one...blitzcloud

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

Going by that logic, if your boss doesn't pay you, he didn't steal anything from you, except intangible hours of work. So it's all good, it was just a contract infringement so it's not the same as stealing. All good, no losses there.

You're right the crime he commits isn't theft but breach of contract

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

your using it without license which IS stealin

And tbh i would watch what your saying bout this and how you say it cause your trying to justify it and that dont go down to welll with the mods.

razgriz_101

I'm not justifying anything just trying to educate you console kids on the difference between stealing and copyright infrigment.

Sorry mr high and mighty that i am a lesser being because i didnt know.

And im not a kidand i dont play on consoles all that much i tend to find myself outside more often and doing something called work just lucky todays my day off :)

But your attitude stinks more than PNF's...

So me being right and you being wrong is me having a stinking attidude? :lol: