Ok at 18 Hours and 36 Minutes I have finished MGS4. I am back off suspension for some silly such thing. Good thing I suppose because I had time to beat MGS4.

Ending thoughts: plotholes anyone? I mean geez. Gameplay great, story...a little hair brained but decent. I don't agree with 10 but hey, not my choice. It's official, my favorite MGS is MGS3 followed closely by MGS2. I think I need to play MGS4 about 4 or 5 times to fully grasp what Kojima was trying to say. I mean I get it and all, I just feel like some of the characters got gimped. For how perfect this game was supposed to be to Kojima, I felt like some characters got less important treatment than others. Two in particular, Colonel and Sunny. I wanted some back story on Sunny and some more talk from the Colonel. At least make him a Codec contact. While we are on the Codec...two contacts...and no facial expressions from Snake like in MGS2, are we taking a step back? Otacon was awesome in this one, except I wanted the MGS2 Otacon that was actually with Snake. Wanted more out of Big Mama. Wanted more of a homage to The Boss. I don't think those are spoilers, because between the review and the trailers released you'd know about all these characters.

Those are my gripes. Take them with a grain of salt if you wish.

MadExponent

Exactly, this game is riddled with plotholes. As a big MGS fan Im trying to like the story and pass it off as me not fully understanding it but I think it really just is bad writing.

Oh well, at least the gameplay makes up for it. It is without exaggeration the funnest game I have ever played.

So can anyone answer the two questions I had like 8 posts back or so. Also add one more question to it.

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WTF was the explanation behind the syringe.

hope the gameplay at least doesnt let ya down...

MaddenBowler10

Gameplay was awesome. Story not so much.

mgs4 is incredible,i absolutely love the way the story advances and the gameplay.

but gears of war looks 3 times better, sorry.

and as you said, lets not even mention crysis

Kirlok

It definately looks better than Gears of War to me.

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I still dont two things in the story and want to make sure if they are badly written plotholes or I just dont understand them. Why was Ocelot faking to be Liquid. What was the whole point behind it. Also, why the hell did Naomi change sides in Act 3? How was that relevent at all.

Storywise, I think this is the worst MGS, gameplay wise it is the best.

just wanted to check:

did anyone else feel that the very last battle was kind of lame?

mistervengeance

Yeah I did think that one scene was very cheesy, reminded of pirates of carribean. I thought the last boss was amazing though, best fight I have ever seen in gaming. And then the button mashing sequence was the coolest scene I have ever seen in gaming. Too bad the ending wasnt as good though:(

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]

Just finished the game.

Gameplay wise, it is the best game I have ever played.

As a big MGS fan though, I thought the story was very disappointing. Better than most games but each and every MGS before it had a much better story. So the story wasnt as good as I expected.

kage_53

First one to say that. Is it too convoluted or something?

Can't be as bad as Sons of Liberty though.

Exactly, as far as the ending goes, its love or hate. Ive been checkin some forums and most of the old fans think the endings plain stupid(not all though) and most of the newer less hardcore fans are like omgz awesomez epicz lulz