According to this vid from right here on GS it is possible to play in third person and also to have the weapon model shown when in first person. I can do neither of these. Whenever I hit the view change key it switches to third person, but it goes into some aimbot mode and I'm unable to move. Were these features removed or something?

Also in another thread I heard of a mod called JANES Realism Gunslinger Mod. Apparently Google has never heard of it. Does it exsist and where might I get it if so?

Another thing you'll see is our investment in bringing 'LIVE' to Games
for Windows which should make online play much better! M$

"Their Investment"
why the hell would any pc gamer want to subscribe to an online gaming service.  As if online pc gaming isn't simple enough.  Just another way for them to steal our money.

[QUOTE="ZJI"]Depends on what you mean by gamer. Old people still play internet casino games and that's on pc. Mine sweeper is also on pc.BloodMist