[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="SupraGT"]

[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"]The cars feel less arcade-like than GT, and even with the assists on, the vehicles are phenomenally realistic." - IGN

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/588/588231p2.html




"Customization, handling, presentation, AI, damage, multiplayer: Forza hits the bull's-eye time after time. Although it doesn't have quite the bewildering range of cars as Gran Turismo 4, Forza is its equal in gameplay, its superior in AI, and adds the online play GT4 lacked. In gaming, like in business, innovators rarely dominate the market they create for long, and Polyphony Digital has got some catching up to do."

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...eviewid=490200





"After playing Forza for the better part of a week and neglecting all sorts of editorial duties, it's definitely hard to go back to the offline, bumper car physics world of Gran Turismo 4." - 1Up.com





"Gran Turismo 4 is, without a doubt, a complex driving simulator. But comparatively, based on what we've seen in the game, and from hands-on experience with cars that we're familiar with in real-life, Forza is crunching more physics data than anything out there." - 1Up.com



"Forza destroys GT4 in the area of customization" - 1Up.com



"When it comes to physics, A.I., and online features, Forza looks to be the new and reigning king" - 1Up.com

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pa...=0&cId=3139787




"Forza Motorsport manages to succeed in doing what other games have tried to do for years - to beat Gran Turismo at its own game." - PALGN AU

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...eviewid=489743



"Let's dispense with the predictable comparisons in a couple of paragraphs. Forza Motorsport is as close to Gran Turismo as you will find on Xbox. Only better. This is not a statement to make lightly, and its coming from one who has an unabashed adoration of the powers of Polyphony Digital. GT4 is the benchmark by which console games are measured, yet on virtually every metric worth counting bar a couple, this game exceeds it. This is the new high water mark for console racing. " - GAME ARENA

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...eviewid=489748




"In short, racing fans who bought a PS2 just for the GT series should think long and hard about trading it in for an Xbox and a copy of Forza Motorsport." - Gamespy



"The pinball overtaking that works in GT won't fly here, because the physics and AI won't allow it. - Gamespy"

http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/forza-m.../609599p1.htmlSupraGT

and how many of them were just following popular opinion? hmm. much like GeOW, but Rainbow 6 was 10x better than gears ever was, but the majority of the media outlet follow each other. 2 of those quotes mentioned physics directly but do they even really know whats going on? If you had your own knowledge, you would know what i'm talking about. I dont care about the bumper cars. I care about the driving physics.

Forza- Customs, online and AI, thats all.

R6V is nothing but your average game

Gears is one of the best games ever

:|

oh no :|
gears is pure crap. wow chain saw. cover shoot. it's not like i haven't seen that before.
R6V takes way more strategy, had a better cover system, better multiplayer, and is just an overall better game. Heck, even graw2 is better than GeOW.

R6V's cover system is absolutely terrible and completely broken

the whole game is mediocre

the ONLY thing good about it is terrorist hunt

Gears doesn't have a single bad part to it

GS under rated the game, it should get a 9.9 with the .1 deduction just being becuase nothing deserves a 10 

[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"]The cars feel less arcade-like than GT, and even with the assists on, the vehicles are phenomenally realistic." - IGN

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/588/588231p2.html




"Customization, handling, presentation, AI, damage, multiplayer: Forza hits the bull's-eye time after time. Although it doesn't have quite the bewildering range of cars as Gran Turismo 4, Forza is its equal in gameplay, its superior in AI, and adds the online play GT4 lacked. In gaming, like in business, innovators rarely dominate the market they create for long, and Polyphony Digital has got some catching up to do."

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...eviewid=490200





"After playing Forza for the better part of a week and neglecting all sorts of editorial duties, it's definitely hard to go back to the offline, bumper car physics world of Gran Turismo 4." - 1Up.com





"Gran Turismo 4 is, without a doubt, a complex driving simulator. But comparatively, based on what we've seen in the game, and from hands-on experience with cars that we're familiar with in real-life, Forza is crunching more physics data than anything out there." - 1Up.com



"Forza destroys GT4 in the area of customization" - 1Up.com



"When it comes to physics, A.I., and online features, Forza looks to be the new and reigning king" - 1Up.com

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pa...=0&cId=3139787




"Forza Motorsport manages to succeed in doing what other games have tried to do for years - to beat Gran Turismo at its own game." - PALGN AU

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...eviewid=489743



"Let's dispense with the predictable comparisons in a couple of paragraphs. Forza Motorsport is as close to Gran Turismo as you will find on Xbox. Only better. This is not a statement to make lightly, and its coming from one who has an unabashed adoration of the powers of Polyphony Digital. GT4 is the benchmark by which console games are measured, yet on virtually every metric worth counting bar a couple, this game exceeds it. This is the new high water mark for console racing. " - GAME ARENA

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...eviewid=489748




"In short, racing fans who bought a PS2 just for the GT series should think long and hard about trading it in for an Xbox and a copy of Forza Motorsport." - Gamespy



"The pinball overtaking that works in GT won't fly here, because the physics and AI won't allow it. - Gamespy"

http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/forza-m.../609599p1.htmlSupraGT

and how many of them were just following popular opinion? hmm. much like GeOW, but Rainbow 6 was 10x better than gears ever was, but the majority of the media outlet follow each other. 2 of those quotes mentioned physics directly but do they even really know whats going on? If you had your own knowledge, you would know what i'm talking about. I dont care about the bumper cars. I care about the driving physics.

Forza- Customs, online and AI, thats all.

R6V is nothing but your average game

Gears is one of the best games ever

:| 

[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]

 

I say they take as long as they need to make a good game, '07 or not.

SupraGT

crappy damage modeling. and you guys complain about GT series not having any damage.

so bad

that's the extent of the damage...
that only a 30 mph impact.

cry about it

come back when Sony has a good racing sim with damage

scratcht hat

come back when sony has a good racing sim period

they already do. forza was just a PGR w/ car customizations. the physics were not as good as GT, esp w/ that crappy steering wheel they had. I'm sorry, but GT4 w/ DFP is alone greater than forza.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Forza's physics crapped all over GT4 

[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]

 

I say they take as long as they need to make a good game, '07 or not.

SupraGT

crappy damage modeling. and you guys complain about GT series not having any damage.

so bad

that's the extent of the damage...
that only a 30 mph impact.

cry about it

come back when Sony has a good racing sim with damage

scratcht hat

come back when sony has a good racing sim period 

[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It really saddens me that I cannot afford a 360 right now... :(AdobeArtist

It saddens me that my fellow Canadians are being screwed by a $100 price difference when the current exchange rate should in no way allow for that. I mean the only reason I got mine in Sep 06 was because of a Best Buy grand opening door crasher where the Premium was $400 CDN. If that were in the US, it would basically be the Premium at the price of the Core, plus PGR 3, plus 1250 MS points.

Moore, *bleep*ing DO something about this already!! Lower the Canadian price and you'll expand the NA market!!!

360 is actually cheaper in Canada than in US

Last time I checked, it's $400 in USA, and $500 in Canada. And that is way too big a difference, considering with PS3 the $600/$660 difference is a much smaller percentage conversion. X360 shouldn't be more than $430 CDN.

Core:

$300 = $335

Kameo = $30 = $33

PGR3 = $30 = $33

Total = $401

Pro:

$400 = $460

CoD3 =$60 = $67

Total = $527

and of course these are direct conversion at market value

it would be quite a bit more to actually buy the stuff in the states and bring it up here 

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It really saddens me that I cannot afford a 360 right now... :(AdobeArtist

It saddens me that my fellow Canadians are being screwed by a $100 price difference when the current exchange rate should in no way allow for that. I mean the only reason I got mine in Sep 06 was because of a Best Buy grand opening door crasher where the Premium was $400 CDN. If that were in the US, it would basically be the Premium at the price of the Core, plus PGR 3, plus 1250 MS points.

Moore, *bleep*ing DO something about this already!! Lower the Canadian price and you'll expand the NA market!!!

360 is actually cheaper in Canada than in US 

[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]

 

I say they take as long as they need to make a good game, '07 or not.

SupraGT

crappy damage modeling. and you guys complain about GT series not having any damage.

so bad