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#1 Xorital
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@Teenaged

Do you see what I am talking about.
-you do not see (usually) see this degree of insults or flat out patronizing from the other side on here

rawsavon

Being forced to go to a school where i'm the only non believer being able to take it out like this makes me feel better and I honestly don't care if its wrong since I get worse treatment than I could ever say to any of you.

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#2 Xorital
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i'd probably be more sympathetic if I cared if my mom got cancer.

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#3 Xorital
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I have faith in my God. Thats it. I love Him so much that though i cannot see him, I have faith in Him.

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well its your choice if you wanna be a muppet in the lies of the world.

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#4 Xorital
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the trailers looked crappy but my friend wants me to see it, from what i'm hearing there is alot of blood and murder which is completly difforent from what the trailors are showing...i'm not a fan of gore but I might take a look

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#5 Xorital
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Most amateur reviews tend to be like that, best just to get over it.

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excuse me? Amateur? He's been a movie critic before you were born.

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#6 Xorital
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Second, your second quote on your sig is full of contradiction.

1- if that guy was born and raised as an atheist then he is also victim of that accidental birth so what was the point of saying what he said?

2- if he wasn't then he proves that people are not robots and can think for themselves for whatever they want to believe in and it has nothing to do with birth.

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1. Every child is born an atheist(lack of belief one) so it is the only default position we have. A child is completely indifferent to god and no god until he is "told" what is "right". Whether a child is a victim in the case of atheist parents will depend entirely on the parents, they should allow the child to think for himself and percieve things his way and not "tell him" that it is some undisputable fact that god doesnt exist.

2. He never suggested that we are robots. However it is a fact that most people believe in the same religion that their parents did and it is very unreasonable to think that somehow most people find their parents religion to be the most "logical" out of the others. The only conclusion left is that most people definitely dont think it through enough or lack the IQ to think the logical issues instead of the emotional ones. They simply develop a bias towards that religion due to what their parents feed them and most simply are never able to get "out" of it. Richard dawkins suggests that it needs a high level of intelligence to get out of a religion one was indoctrinated in and I agree with him, it depends on how absolute the parents were in teaching their child about religion.

Well spoken.

I also may have some insight in the matter of why people think that Atheists bash believers: It is not simply a matter of taking for granted something that cannot be measured, witnessed or proven, I think this has to do with the following:

Too many beliefs have a hippochritical way of viewing man.The belief sets a standard of what is good or bad, related to core values, but too many religions and prominent figures in that given religion (IMO) seem to preach one thing while doing another. It closes off man and pushes him/her into a form that not many people fit into.

I'm not saying it's wrong to try to become something better than you are, but IMO you cannot label normal human behavior as "sin" for instance. Christianity does not see man as another animal on our planet, but as a seperate being...something greater and havecreated these rules of what we should be like and not.By doing this it denies many of our instincsas animals(I think animal or mammal is the most fitting word).

Another issue may be that atheists feel that having to rely on something other than themselves in a situation decreeses the amount of power and responsability we are empowered with. A good example is the situation where a young person is denied medical treatment by the parents, based on belief. This way of stripping man of his/her power makes me certainly unconfortable, I want to be in charge of myself and I know that if I need something to be different; I do something about it, I don't pray and hope that something will happen without my interference.

Does this make any sense?

indeed. Another example, masturbation is a sin. I would love it if a preist could look me in the eyes and honestly tell me he doesnt do it.

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#7 Xorital
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Also the bible was written by man, so in my opinion it can't be right since man make assumptions all the time and we still don't know what happens when we die for sure, so how can we be sure that people back then even knew.

It's all an assumption mainly used to scare us into being ''good'' people and making ''right'' choices. I have no religious beliefs but it doesnt mean I don't have morals, so religion isnt needed to keep me in check.

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#8 Xorital
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Well if you want an over the top atheist you'll have to settle with the agnostic instead *ahem* religion is gay none religion is gay your gay i'm gay so let's just be gay together, and with that i'm stright so i'm gonna go back to sleep now.

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#9 Xorital
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my girlfriend is my best friend.

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#10 Xorital
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did they die?