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#1 andyb1205
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[QUOTE="zachbateman"]Im Christain and very proud of that fact!, i hope everyone reading this believes in God too! i think some aspects of evolution could be real but the majority is total BS. sorry but thats what i believe! :)SpaceDragonMan

Care to explain which parts are BS?

Such as Earth not being 6000 years!

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#2 andyb1205
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Im Christain and very proud of that fact!, i hope everyone reading this believes in God too! i think some aspects of evolution could be real but the majority is total BS. sorry but thats what i believe! :)zachbateman

Evolution isn't bs, but I believe in God. Good to know you believe in Him too. Just tell your fellow friend in this thread to stop spamming "jesus loves you".

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#3 andyb1205
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wow...dont get all butt sore just cuz yur islamic and no 1 in here including christians will see eye to eye to u...lol..its ok...jesus loves u too... and yur right. im not to bright.. :P Bolvar_11

omg gg i kno i can barely spel n i am vary uneducatd but at leas i don worship a man

by da way im n0t musl1m im jus tryin to let u kno dat blind faith = funny

im a person who is 0pen oN rel1gion becuz i don make dec1sions w/o evidence or pr00f or g00d persuasion

neways i cant spell .

Anyways, you are telling me to not get "butt sore" because I'm Islamic? (though I'm not either of them).

I have Christian friends, but they don't push their beliefs on me, saying Jesus loves me. They have their opinions, I have mine, and yes, you are not bright.

Btw did you go to one of those Peter Popoff miracle shows? I think you did. You're really desparate man, damn.

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#4 andyb1205
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Anyways, I think I know EXACTLY who Bolvar is...

Come on guys, GUESS! GUESS! GUESS!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2FARDDcdFaQ

All Hail Zeus or be smited!

What's the difference between "worshipping Jesus" and the Egypt/Greek/Roman Gods living in fear? Nothing!

Jesus was a prophet, and should be respected as one. However, do not even dare think of worshipping a Man.

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#5 andyb1205
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Oh man...Bolvar you are funny.

You can't spell, so I'm guessing you can't be too bright.

Islam also says Jesus was born miraculusly.

You just said it. The bible is a historical document written by man and changed over time, and is not the words of God, unless God did not know anything, and was one big bully. Wait...this is how Richard Dawkins names him.

Did you read my post or not? I'll put it back here until you read it.

This is not an islam vs christianity post, only to merely point out that the bible should not be taken seriously.

Quoted by Siddiqui (Gamespot User)

What's said in the Bible is to be taken with a grain of salt. Unlike the Qur'an, there's no proof that the Bible today is the Bible revealed to Jesus (upon him be peace) the messiah, son of Mary. The bible was not written down during his life. The 'Q document' was only compiled well after his death. Furthermore, the oldest whole copies of the gospel that exist today still date several hundreds of years after the death of the Jesus (upon him be peace.) Furthermore again, not only do these copies contradict each other, they also contradict every bible that exists today. So forget about having it in its original Aramaic language. The NIV or KJV are no Q documents. We have no idea what proportion of the Bible today is true and what is false. But God does not forsake his creation - never.

This is why we have the Qur'an. The verses of the Qur'an were written down immediately after they were revealed to the Prophet (peace be upon him) by any one of 40 appointed trusted scribes. Between these and the oldest full copies of the Quran there is only one 'link Quran' - the compilation, checking and authentication of which is well documented. The two oldest full copies of the Qur'an date back 14 centuries to less than 20 years after the death of the Prophet. These copies are not only identical to each other but identical to each and every Qur'an that exists today - to the letter. Oh, and yep, they're both in Arabic of course.

This is a HUGE deal when it comes to things like prophecies. The prophecies in the Bible are somewhat compelling and give some indication that at least some parts of the book are likely of divine source (as Muslims do believe - still, no one knows which parts or even which proportion of the book remains of divine source after these millenia.) The Qur'an has prophecies as well which prove its divine source, but in this case we know that every single letter of the Qur'an is still exactly what was revealed to the Prophet. The whole book is truth. Furthermore, almost all - the exceptions being the Day of Judgment and a few of the events that are to occur slightly before it - of these prophecies have come true and are accurate. The prophecies are also very specific. Even the most persistent cynics in denial can't go with the usual "oh, well, these prophecies were made up afterwards and added to the book, yeah" argument because as you know now the authenticity of the Quran is highly verified.

Still, I won't dwell on prophecies. When God wants to give a sign to people he gives them one they understand and respect. During Moses' (upon him be peace) time they respected magic; God gave Moses a hand that would glow after being put on his chest and a stick that would turn into a snake when thrown to the ground (oh, it parted the seas... that too.) During Jesus' (upon him be peace) time medicine was starting to be big; God made Jesus cure the lepers and raise the dead. During Muhammad's (peace be upon him) time the Arabs respected mastery of poetry and Arabic language; the Qur'an was a most impossibly excellent and uncompromisingly beautiful combination of poetry and prose rhetoric the likes of which they could never have imagined let alone have ever seen or heard. Now, what do people of today respect?

- SCIENCE

Muhammad (peace be upon him) is not with us anymore, but God always will be and He has preserved the Qur'an Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught us and He created it prepared for times that would come. The Quran contains multitudes of references to scientific facts that have only been discovered in the last century - and they are far more compelling than those found in the bible. It's amazing that a document proven to be 1400 years old tells of information of this nature without making even a single subtle mistake or blunder. It was impossible for any man in any position in that century - in that millennia - to know this much let alone an Arab merchant that was so completely unschooled and didn't even know how to read or write. The bible has some interesting stuff, which is expected, but this stuff is much more compelling - especially when combined with the proven authenticity of the Quran. The Big-Bang theory, embryological development, expanding universe, origin of stars and planets - it's all there. What I'm going to mention is just the top of it. Do follow the links I give as they really show how subtle yet detailed and perfect the statements and word choice in the Qur'an is and also give more examples.

"Cosmic 'Smoke'"
http://www.55a.net/eng/dust1.htm
Sura Al-Dhareyat - "Drivers of the Wind", verse 47:
"Then turned He to the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly."
How does a 7th century Arab man know stars and planets are formed by Nebulas?
Sura Al-Anbeyaa (The prophets) -verse 30:
"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth used to be one solid mass that we exploded into existence? And from water we have made everything living. Will they not then believe?"
How does a 7th century Arab man know about the Big Bang and the fact that the earliest known forms of life on the planet were from the ocean?
Sura Al-Dhareyat verse 47:
"We have built the heaven with might, and We will continue to expand it."
How does a 7th century Arab man know about the expanding universe theory?

Embryology
http://www.55a.net/eng/2b1.htm
(The Qur'an, 96:1-3)
"Recite: In the name of your Lord Who created man from 'Alaq'"
The human embryo clings to the wall of the uterus, is leach like since it derives all its nutrients from its mother and is like congealed blood in that it has some blood but that blood is stagnant.
'Alaq is an Arabic word that means "a thing that that clings to some place." The word is also used to refer to leeches. It also means a clot or congealed blood. A word with three meanings fulfills all its meanings about one of the earliest stages in human development in a 1400 year old document.

Referring to Mointains as pegs.
http://www.55a.net/eng/25.htm
"Have we not made the earth as a wide expanse, and the mountains as pegs?" (Quran 78: 6-7)
A peg has the majority of its mass under a surface and stabilizes something. It was only finally theorized in 1865 that the vast majority of a mountain's mass was actually underground. So how do mountains stabilize anything?
"He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you." (Quran 3: 10)
It's now known starting in the 60s that mountains play a role in halting plate tectonic movements. How could anyone back then have gone about figuring about plate tectonics, much less how they are stopped?

Let me tell you what the Arabs believed at the time. They believed the sky was a giant frikkin' DOME. Yeah, why not. They thought there were stars because there were holes in the dome and there was a big fire outside where light came from. The sky was supposedly blue 'cus there was a big ocean outside (rain would happen when there was a leak.) So they lived under this wicked underwater revolving dome with this crazy fire on top of it all. We don't know what it was like back then. Did they actually believe that stuff? Maybe - maybe not - but that was really the best they could come up with. How could a common unlettered unschooled Arab merchant suddenly figure it all out? I don't need to spell it out for you that it must have instead been from a divine being.

I really recommend visiting this site: http://www.55a.net/eng/index.htmbecause I haven't mentioned A LOT of stuff. The site goes into more science stuff (both on stuff I mentioned and stuff I didn't), some mathematical stuff and some prophecies. But even that site doesn't have it all because there's stuff on calculating the speed of light with the Quran, stages of the Big Bang, a whole bunch of stuff I haven't mentioned and probably a whole bunch of stuff I haven't even seen yet.

Have I gotten into signs in the Hadith (narrations about the prophet)? Like the one where women will start wearing clothes as a second skin (skin tight clothing you see girls wearing today) and make their hair like the humps of a camel (curling their hair.) Or how about the one where the prophet says that one of signs of coming of the Day of Judgment is that everybody will be walking around in the streets with musical instruments on their head dancing to the music all the while. This was the oddest thing to the Arab: how is everybody going to afford multiple instruments, how are they going to carry it on the heads, how are they going dance with this stuff on their head, why would they do this embarrassing thing in the streets, and wouldn't it get to loud to appreciate the music with everyone doing it? Nope. iPod. (not so crazy anymore eh?)

I could go on and on but this post is long and there are literally hundreds upon hundreds of signs that would take forever for me to write. I made this post not to demoralize anyone but because: 1. I don't like falsehood and 2. Like many, I don't hate people enough to want them become evil or anything and go to the Hellfire. So take this as a fair warning which is your right over me as fellow human beings. Islam is very real. Hell is very real. Heaven is very real. Take time to study Islam, there are a lot of misconceptions.

La ilaha ilallah muhammadur rasulallah
"There is none worthy of worshipbut God and Muhammad is his messenger."

If I've written anything good it's from God so praise Him. If I've written anything wrong it's from me so please forgive me.

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#6 andyb1205
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]anything bigger than a 22" monitor is to big for how close you sit to the computer IMO.laughingman42

well you can always move the monitor back a bit on the desk :)

well then it would look the same as a 22" monitor close up, what would be the point of that?

Well I guess I'll just stare straight at 27". Well..iono..hmm...sex? With that on the side...

It's pretty much "would you rather have a PC or a better experience with console gaming"

Though games like UT3 and CoD4 will be way better on PC..

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#7 andyb1205
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Oh wow xbox 360 is gona die now!

go PS3 woot i knew it microsoft is gona go bankrupt and bill gates is gona quit and spend all of his money to get a 3some with jessica alba and jessica biel what a horny guy cant fault the guy tho hes rich

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#8 andyb1205
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[QUOTE="Bolvar_11"]wow...theres a lot of hope for after yur dead... have a good life...apparently yur only getting 1The_Ish

Who are you speaking to?

I think he's a troll, he can barely spell.

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#9 andyb1205
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The_Ish... u make me laugh... religion and conversation is important.. its how we leard... and by the way... Jesus loves u.. and every single person in this forumBolvar_11

ZEUS LOVES YOU! I can't prove Zeus exists but he LOVES YOU!

If you believe in God, like I do, then good.

If you don't believe in God, but are a good person, you will at the end, and will be forgiven.

If He doesn't exist, then I'm wasting my time.

But going around saying that out of the WHOLE UNIVERSE God sent his Son here, then lol.

First of all, God shouldn't be given Human-Qualities. If you have a "Son" you are given a human-quality of being a "Father". That's why a lot of intelligent people are atheists because they can't stand people like you going around saying "jesus loves you!!!"

Zeus loves you - Richard Dawkins

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#10 andyb1205
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the man acctually killed 800 with a donky's jaw bone... and the NEW TESTEMENT was written during jesus' life time...but the old testement was... 42 references can be found prophesizing(telling the future) the coming of christ... all of which were fullfilled...by the way... these were all hundreds.. some of them a few thousand years prophesized before the birth of christ.... in the words of FRY and BENDER from FUTURAMA.... "BAM!!!"Bolvar_11

Actually, the New Testament was NOT written during Jesus's life time, stop lieing.

The prophecies were prophecies, yes, I believe like I said that some of the Bible is from the original and therefore divine (note..some) and I do believe Jesus was a prophet.

However, those prophecies did not involve him being crucified, resurrected, or being the "Son of God". Islam is the only religion that believes in Jesus Christ...though they believe in him as a prophet not the Son of God.

And again, the reason Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah is because the last prophecy he gave was the Sign of Jonah (he put all his eggs in one basket) meaning he was "ALIVE" in the tomb, though the Bible lies that he was resurrected,etc.

Meaning Jesus didn't lie, he fulfilled his last prophecy, but the Bible made up stuff. Actually, Paul made up stuff taking it from other Pagan religions, as well as Mithraism.

Now, did you actually care to read my previous post? Because people always tell me to go read all of this stuff proving the Bible right, but never actually care to read my posts. And I do always read that stuff, wasting my time.

Do you believe someone killed 800 people with a donkey's jaw bone? And the Earth is flat and the world is 6000 years old? Look, if believing all of this stuff that conflicts with Modern Science makes you a better person, then that's good. Just search the Truth.

The Truth is that if you don't believe in Jesus you are not guaranteed a ticket to Hell.

What about all of those really good people from the time of Egypt, Rome, Sumeria, and other civilizations? They never heard of a monotheist religion but did they burn in Hell? God is the most Merciful, don't live a life of fear, live a life of truth and virtue.

All these people today doing good things for the world and helping us better understand the world, like Stephen Hawkings, Richard Dawkins, lots of other scientists, well, they're agnostic or atheist. But are they burning in Hell? If God is Merciful, the answer is no.

But going around spamming "I believe in Jesus, he's my savior, you need him!!!!" is the same as running around in ancient times saying "If you don't believe in Zeus, he will strike you with Thunder!!!! You need him!!!!"