Bavant, I havn't noticed a death penalty, have you?rimnet00

[QUOTE="bavant07"]well sir (ma'am, watever) if u must be so critical of my post, i have 23 of the 43 acievements. to further enrich your knowledge. the acievements are for the most part voluntary little things that u can do. llike blow up six people wit one explosive or keep someone up in the air for a certain amount of time. they dont have any kind of a story line in the game for the most part. so the only acievements that u would get with the non existant story is to just kill all the gang bosses or to level up each stat to four starszan10

u mean me? if yeah, 12hrs just seems very little for a free roaming game

yea i have a copy of the full version too. its pretty fun for a while, but soon after when you level up and kill all the gangs, it kinda loses its value pretty quick. me and my friends have it to so we've been playing co op. i couldnt see my self paying a whole 60 for the game its worth at most is a worthy rental. i mean the beta is a good plus, but after the beta is over yur kinda stuck with jus crackdown.... by that time everyting will be done and u will be bored. so if u wanna dish out 60 for one level of halo 3 for at the most by all means go for it. but for what its worth, crackdown is fun for a while.