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[QUOTE="Darth_Tyrev"]Gahndi and MLK proved pacifism can work. However, if someone's pointing a gun in your face or something, it's probably not the best solution.quiglythegreat

You can tell that to all the monks in Burma. Pacifism only works well your dealing with a reasonable goverment.

I didn't say totally unreasonable, but they have to be goverment that are not willing to simply line people and shoot them which alot of goverments are. Seriously all civil pacfism against an oppresive goverment is satyagraha but who uses that word.

Gahndi and MLK proved pacifism can work. However, if someone's pointing a gun in your face or something, it's probably not the best solution.Darth_Tyrev

You can tell that to all the monks in Burma. Pacifism only works well your dealing with a reasonable goverment.

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3examples I was walking along one somebody stopped me in the street give us 50p "no sorry mate" and walked past him. then I get punched in the back of the head. I guess I could of avoided that by giving 50p.

A youth I didn't know rode his bike past me and punched me in the face. How was that avoidable.

I was in having a driink in my city centre when the one of the lads I was with got in an argument with a bunch of lads. Seeing that things were going to get hostile thew lad i was with was all like I'm not looking for trouble and when of the other lads try to say something to diffuse the situation was told to shut the f up. So I decided to just be quiet. They then started to chase him up the street. One of the lads who was didn't chase him turned around and punched me in the face. Assuming he wasn't going to stop Iattempted to defend myself. By the way the lad did get arrested but then so did I. So I should have just let him punch merepeatedly and done anything about it.

Super_Hippie

First two: Not fights. You got hit. Yeah, that sucks. You could have easily turned it into a fight, though, if you hit back. Did you? If so, you could have avoided it. If not, you did the right thing.

As for the last scenario, it's not that black and white. Many of my friends would have just tried to defend themselves without throwing punches back. Just because someone is TRYING to hit you doesn't mean you have to let them. You could block, dodge, or just plain run away. But just as not all Christians are text-book definitions, not all pacifists will not completely defend themselves. I take Tai Chi and Pa Kua just for those reasons. I can turn someone's attack into an attack on themselves just by redirecting their force. In the end, it was them that inflected the harm on themself, not me.

Mate you must live in the perfect place. Because if somebody starts hitting you where i livethey don't stop until you are on the floor.

And I could have avoided the last one by being a martial art expert? And by the way my knees are screwed up so I cannot run.