[QUOTE="bobofcow"]ok... and you if proof?? -Jiggles-

...you if proof? :|

and you have proof??!

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Hitler despised Christianity. He considered it weak and he felt it would die out. No Hitler was not a follower of Christ. His actions underscored that by the way. I suggest doing some study on his private conversations and correspondence.

Hitler in fact did kill Catholics. Catholics are Christians...thus Hitler prosecuted Christians. Your google search failed.

Enosh88

yes he did despite organized religion and it's twisting of the word of Jesus, thats what he despised, not the idea itself but the organizationthat came from that idea. He was actualy very pro "positive christianity" thats striping christianity of all the rulles and only leaving the part with salvation given from jesus.

stalin killed atheist, which proves staling prosecuted atheist, which makes him a theist. Your logic fails

:lol: You do realise that atheism is incompatible with satanism, right?

Funky_Llama

well depends WHICH satanism you are talking of. There are 2, the theist one with beling in satan and god and all that thing. And a non-theistic one, where you don't belive that satan actualy exsist, but that he is only a metaphor for "freedom" in the way that every person should be allowed to do what he wants (with the restrictions of the secular law ofcourse) and basicly be his own god that one was made popular by LaVey

[QUOTE="bobofcow] wow just wow you did call me dumb look at what you type before omg. i hate people like you , you do something and then you say you didn't. stalin killed a lot of people he was a atheist, look at the high school shootings that happen in the past these messed up kids were atheist too. the world would be a much better place without atheist. there will still be evil but it will be much better less crime and less killing and less hard headed people.[/QUOTE

sweden 80% atheist - USA 10%

swedenvoted as best place to be a child in, voted as best place to be a mother in, less teen pregnacies compared to USA, less murders compared to USA, less divorces compared to USA, higher education standard compared to USA, less powerty compared to USA, sweden 6. on human development index US 12. higher life expectancy then US, less infant deaths then usa

yeah living in a mostly atheist society has to be a pain :(

ok... and you if proof??

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

No claws, just God's truth. I have not used the words you used to describe yourself. Those are from your imaginations, not my keystrokes. -Jiggles-

God's truth? That's purely bound to your own Christian faith. To other faiths, such as Islam, there is no other god besides Allah and his word reins over all; what makes your god any better than the Islamic god? Or the gods of hinduism? Or the gods of Egyptian or Greek mythology for that matter?

Too funny. Christians are not required to accept the lies of non-believers. We are to speak the truth from God's Word.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

blackregiment

That is quite arrogant of you to think that only Christians are truthful and right. And I find it quite laughable that you use your own little Bible verses to prove that Christianity is right as well.

I could do the exact same thing with the Islamic religion. All I need to do is say "Allah is the only God and anybody who doesn't believe in him is wrong and stupid" and quote a couple of passages from the Quran to further my point.

If your uneducated mind hasn't wrapped itself around the concept I'm trying to show you, then you're truly a lost individual.

how is he a lost individual? he is saved unlike you. you could say all you want about other religions but you would only fine truth in the bible.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="dave123321"]

If I live a good life and do good for the community in general , then I do not know why I should go to hell.

But I do not believe in it. I just think that if there was a god , then he is not going to banish me from heaven just because I did not belive in him.

blackregiment

All men are sinners. The penalty for sin is eternal death. When one accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior, His righteousness is imputed to them. They are counted righteous before a just God. Christ paid the penalty for their sin. Without Christ, we pay our own price for our sins, eternal death.

Don't worry, the Lord is not going to force salvation on you. You are free to pay your own price for your sins.

If there is a God then you are assuming that your beliefs are the correct representation of God. You cannot really prove that you are correct in that regard. I cannot really disprove either. I respect that you believe that , but we are never really going to get anywhere by debating or what not.

I will get more results than your candidate will. You are contradicting your own logic. If you believe that, then you should change your banner.

The mistake you make is that what I am teaching is not from me. It is God's revealed Word in the Bible. God has revealed these things to His creation that they may have fellowship with Him and eternal life.

I just plant seeds and confront the lies of this world. God work s in the hearts of people to convict them of their sin and lead them to a saving knowledge of Him.

You are welcome to not read my posts.

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Isa 44:18 They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

And you are teaching under the assumption that the bible is the word of God. There is no way to prove if it is or not. I am not saying that you are right or wrong , I am just saying that we will not convince each other to believe in what the other believes in.

Hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, millions of changed lives, etc.

"For one piece of evidence take the people of Israel themselves. God has promised since Abraham and over again to all his offspring that he would make Abraham a "father of many nations", that he would have offspring "like the stars of the sky" and the "sand of the seashore" and that God would preserve a remnant of the Jewish people forever, to miniser his praises before Him.

Now, it is historical fact that no ethnic group of people, in course of the whole of human history, has ever withstood being either genetically or culturally assimilated if they are conquered and taken in total slavery, even for more than a few generations. Now, consider the fact that the Jews, despite the best efforts of the Egyptians, the Canaanites, the Philistines, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Crusaders, and the Nazis still to this day have more than 10 million of their people on Earth. A remnant, just as God has promised. Not only have they gone into total defeat and slavery, not once but three times, they have often spent hundreds or even thousands of years (not a few generations) with no homeland, mingled with other races and other languages. And yet, they remain and in 1948, again as God promised, they have returned to their land. It would be one thing if this were just a slight, statistically outling fluke of history. But it is so far above and beyond what any other people on earth has endured that it strains all credibility to say "its just luck". No, God's outstreched arm cannot be resisted, His purpose for His people cannot be thwarted and His promises cannot be undone." AT

The entire Bible is the inerrant, inspired, preserved, revelation from God of Himself, His interaction with and plan of salvation for His creation with Jesus Christ as the central revelation.

The Bible is composed of 66 separate books, written over approximately 1,600 years, by at least 40 distinct authors, from all walks of life, written in three different languages, on three different continents, all in perfect agreement and revealing a consistent message, the path to salvation in Jesus Christ. The Old Testament contains 39 books written from approximately 1500 to 400 BC, and the New Testament contains 27 books written from approximately 40 to 65 AD.

There is no other book that has ever come close to this remarkable achievement and wisdom. Anyone that reads and studies it and cannot see the inspiration and work of God in the Bible just doesn't want to. Try getting 40 people in the same room or on the same internet thread to agree on something and it will be clear that the Bible is God's inspired, inerrant, and preserved Word. Anyone can pick a verse out of the Bible and try to discredit it but when one openly and honestly looks at all of the evidence for the truth of the Bible in its entirety, only one that chooses to remain in rebellion to the Lord will reject it. It has been said, even by secular psychologists, that if one studies the Sermon on the Mount, in the 5th, 6th, and 7th chapters of Matthew, the excellence of the wisdom, guidance, and life lessons of the words and teachings of Jesus in just those verses, surpasses the totality of all advice ever written in the history of man by all psychologists and sociologists that ever lived. Many concede that if all the advice ever written by those experts were condensed down, into one document, the wisdom for living in Jesus' teachings would dwarf them in significance. This is overwhelming evidence for the divine inspiration and truth of the Bible as well as the divinity of Christ.

In the Old Testament

The books of Law reveal the foundation for Christ the Messiah

The historical books reveal the preparation for Christ the Messiah

The books poetic books aspire to Christ the Messiah

The books of prophecy reveal the expectation of Christ the Messiah

In the New Testament

The Gospels reveal the historical manifestation of Christ the Messiah

The Acts reveal the propagation of Christ the messiah

The Epistles reveal the interpretation of Christ the Messiah

Revelation reveals the consummation of all things in Christ the Messiah

God has not revealed His entire plan and everything regarding the natural world to man. Man could not possibly comprehend it with our finite mind. He has revealed what He, as our Creator, wants us to know.

The evidence for the existence of God is all around, in His creation, in His revealed Word, fulfilled prophecy, and in Jesus Christ. You just have to be willing to look for it and seek Him. The death and resurrection is one of the most well documented events in all of antiquity. If you are not willing to put forth the effort to research the evidence, that is your choice.

Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated:

"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).

Greenleaf concluded that according to the jurisdiction of legal evidence the resurrection of Jesus Christ was the best supported event in all of history!

And not only that, Dr. Greenleaf was so convinced by the overwhelming evidence, he committed his life to Jesus Christ!

thank you for posting

[QUOTE="bobofcow"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="bobofcow"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="bobofcow"]atheist are hard headed why do you attack the bible? you know nothing maybe if you freakin read the bible then you might beleive. seriously i don't get why athesit are like this. kinda slow i mean well enjoy hell when you die. MFaraz_Hayat

Yet you enjoy wishing malevolency upon atheists? You're no better than any other fundamentalist.

wishing malevolency on beast like you. think mostly atheist are satanist and most crimes are commited by atheist. most atheist dress up like ugly goths. those emo people you see are also atheist i don't see they shouldn't burn. the reason why this atheist thing started was because satan wants people to not beelive in christ. wake up

Wow dude your funny, atheist are not satanist, we dont believe in fairy tales such as you do. And your rather ignorant and unitelligent as well with your dumb rantings.

no your the one thats dumb. heaven/hell has nothing to do with fairy tales you **** just use fairy tales to make it look like your smart or something. your mom and dad are atheist **** too i bet. i'll be laughing when you go face to face with him once you pass on.

This is what you call the teachings of Christ? To abuse a non-christian person and his parents?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You know nothing about history or religion.blackregiment

Hah, claws out today, huh? Just because I don't agree with your god doesn't mean that I'm a horrible, ignorant person, you know. You should look up the word "acceptance" sometime; isn't that what you Christians are suppose to know and do?

-Jiggles-

No claws, just God's truth. I have not used the words you used to describe yourself. Those are from your imaginations, not my keystrokes.

You should look up the word "acceptance" sometime; isn't that what you Christians are suppose to know and do?

-Jiggles-

Too funny.Christians are not required to accept the lies of non-believers. We are to speak the truth from God's Word.

Rom 12:2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Tit 2:11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Tit 2:12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Tit 2:13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Tit 2:14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Tit 2:15These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

Hitler was not a follower of Christ.blackregiment

Yes he was.

-Jiggles-

Please, I am starting to feel sorry for your lack of knowledge.

God said, Thou shall not murder.

Christ said.

Joh 14:15Ifyeloveme,keepmycommandments.

The Lord said.

1Jn 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1Jn 1:6If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1Jn 2:4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Did Hitler murder? Yes

Hitler was not a follower of Christ by Christ's own standards.

I'll trust Christ over your uninformed opinion.

If onew says they are a duck, you seem to believe that makes them a duck.

Want to buy some swampland. It is nice waterfront property?

He used and deceived the Church in Germany* in His rise to power.

blackregiment

Seems like a fad for many dictators, doesn't it?

-Jiggles-

Some do, but the biggies of your "atheist faith" such as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, theywere man enough to admit they were atheists.

He prosecuted Jews, Christians, gypsies, etc.blackregiment

He prosecuted the Jews and Gypsies, that much is true; doing a quick google search on if Hitler convicted Christians has deemed me no results, however. I'll just accept that much as pure conspiracy, nothing more.

-Jiggles-

I really didn't come here to prove how little you know aboutChristianity and history, but you keep opening the door wide enough to drive a Mack truch through.

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/Lucaire.htm

He was an occultist that believed in the religion of Darwinismas justifification to create his superior race.

blackregiment

Darwinism isn't a religion. :lol:

-Jiggles-

O yes it is.It has beliefs and requires much more "faith" that true Christianity.

i agree