If MS has issues with the X1 like with 360, Lems will defend them. MS could kill their families and Lems would defend them.

@NFJSupreme:

That's why renting and used games sales are necessary. MS tried to F that up on X1 and Sony embarressed them and they didn't go through with it.

I pre ordered 2 PS4s for all games. Not just for exclusives and not just for multi-plats.

@casharmy:

Lems are so far in denial of what MS is that they can't see the cold hard facts when laid out in front of them.

They like the Xbox no matter what and defend the bad practices of the losers running MS's Xbox division.

@NameIess_One:

You just proved my point. Sony is forced to follow bad practices by MS to stay competitive. Paying for online being the latest one. MS being the more successful than Sony in America is bad for gaming. Without Sony being around to keep MS in check MS would make gaming terrible. Fact is when Sony is on top gaming stays good. When MS becomes too successful they start going full steam ahead with ruining gaming.

@WilliamRLBaker:

MS doing really well with the 360 has caused Sony to figure out ways to get people in America to buy their console more. MS being successful in America makes them arrogant and is bad for gaming. Sony will be forced to do similar crappy policies to gamers in order to be competitive if MS continues to dominate in America. Sony finally started to charge for online gaming with PS4 in order to compete.

MS winning in America = bad for gaming. Sony winning in America = good for gaming.

@blackace:

This thread is not a joke. Sony embarresed MS at E3 about their DRM, used games limitation and in turn MS changed their policies back to normal.

Without Sony MS would have made X1 the worst anti-consumer console in gaming history. And Nintendo's Wii U is terrible. So while you game on your X1 without mandatory Kinect spying on you, no DRM, and you can rent games and buy used games without extra fees you'll know what company prevented those from being reality. And we'll never know what else MS would have done in addition to these because now they know people will buy Sony's consoles instead.

@WilliamRLBaker:

Only after 3 consoles without charging. MS has always charged. And that's nothing to the amount of crap MS has pulled on their consumers.

It sounds like you were not smart with whom you bought it from. Never buy anything used from anyone\company that isn't very reputable and will allow returns.

Maybe you should steal some good ones for topics?! All companies copy to some degree or another.