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#1 cfwin
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Why not pickup a second 460 and go SLI? Good price/performance on a setup like that.

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#2 cfwin
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First, how do you define "maxing out", to me that is every option on max with at least some AA. Crysis is a hog that pushes my GTX580 SLI setup to 100% fan @ 90C on top card if I max with 4xAA and getting 50fps+ @2560x1440. This benchie tells the story:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-gf104-fermi,2684-8.html

20-25 fps with no AA at 1920x1080 is not playable imo...

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#3 cfwin
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You will most assuredly not be maxing Crysis 1 and Metro 2033 with that GPU.

(Edit: not even with 2 of them, I'm sorry to say)

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#4 cfwin
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I didn't find the statement that disheartening really, I interpret it as a desire to make the game appeal to both rpg and shooter fans, a difficult feat definately but not an impossible one. We can all agree that we don't want MP and to my mind Bioware doesn't want MP either so the point is moot. The delay itself is also not months as some people stated, I'm thinking instead of a mid-december launch we're looking at a date much closer to the ME2 date, late January, absolutely not enough time to add some out-of-place MP that no one wants.

Edit: BTW, chillax everyone, this is Cmdr. Shepard we're talking about he'll save us, the rest of the galaxy and even this game (without loosing any party members either).

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#5 cfwin
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^^ In agreement, C Rule went above and beyond in this case. If TC likes gaming then get a desktop computer with decent specs and if you want to sit around outside working then get a cheaper lappy (how can you even carry around a laptop with a 17" screen, minimum 3.5 kg, get a cheaper, smaller and more portable one for work).

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#6 cfwin
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^^ This is the same resolution as the other 3 monitors you talked about. 1080p = 1920x1080 = FullHD. As stated is good but the larger the screen and the closer you sit the size of the pixels will be greater = "blockier" or fuzzy perception, as opposed to a 24-25" with the same resolution where the pixel density will be greater at the same resolution.

Edit: and about the "washed-out" colors, nothing to do with the resolution, all dependent on the panel type: TN panel = colder colors, "only" 16.7 million, less color fidelity. IPS = accurate colors, 1.07 billion colors, excellent viewing angles.

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#7 cfwin
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The 1ms is the amount of milliseconds it takes for one pixel to change from one color to another. You might think that as low as possible is the best but it is in fact not the case, first of all the human eye really can't tell a difference on anything below 10 ms so if your monitor is in that category you don't have to worry about lagging pixels. A problem with an extremly low ms on a screen is that the manufacturer uses overdrive tech in order to make the pixels more responsive which can actually lead to ghosting, trails and shadows. What seems good about this screen is that you can choose which setting to put the ms using the osd (would recommend that you set to somewhere in the middle and try it out). Viewsonic also has "the best pixel policy in the business" -their words, not mine but maybe it's good.

It's always like a lottery when buying a screen, first if you only buy it online you can't see it and test it out and then it's the issue of dead or stuck pixels, bought an acer monitor a few years back that had a stuck pixel just left of center and that was incredibly annoying and I couldn't take it back because of the pixel policy.

I say go for the last monitor you linked (the 1ms) if the price is good, godd luck...

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#8 cfwin
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The graphics may look a bit "crisper" on the 25" that's true but you should also account for the fact that if you game on a 27" you will feel a bit more immersed in the game (st least that's how it is for me :) ), not a entirely easy decision...

The viewing angles are very limited on all TN panels (like the panels in both those monitors and like 85-90% of all computer monitors), meaning that if you don't sit directly in front of it colors will be distorted, this is very noticeable on a white background since the colors would distort to grey or black when looking at the screen from an angle. The flickering is a bit weird, maybe a problem with that particular monitor if nobody else have reported it.

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#9 cfwin
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Monitor, Dell U2711 @ ~$1100 US

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#10 cfwin
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They seem very much equal to me, they both have what appears to be solid stands which is very important, you don't want a screen that size wobbling every time you move at your desk. The Viewsonic is bigger, a bit brighter and with slightly better contrast while the HP has LED backlighting for (supposedly) deeper blacks. You may want to check on the manufacturers' pixel policy, one might be more generous than the other.

Personally I would go with the slightly smaller HP because having a 27" screen at "only" 1920x1080 makes the lack of pixel density quite noticeable when sitting close (unlike a TV), HP is a solid brand in monitors (as is Viewsonic :) ), it has an hdmi-port.